On 15/04/17 13:27, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 01:18:52PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> As you describe, the default network is an extra layer of NAT. It >> works, but not everybody wants that. > > So those who don't want it can fix their bloody configuration. > > Are you honestly suggesting that we should create unnecessary fluff for > all our users just because NAT doesn't work for a small minority of our > users? >
There are separate questions about (a) whether it can be an option (not default), or (b) whether it would be a useful default > It's always possible to create a bridge manually, there's no need to do > that from the installer; and NAT works out of the box (virt-manager will > even suggest you enable the default network if you try to use it and it > hasn't been enabled yet). > It isn't so hard to do manually, but every person who wants this needs to go and find out the necessary changes and edit /etc/network/interfaces There is also the inconvenience factor: people have to bounce their interface or reboot when making a change like that. If the bridge is already there we save them that inconvenience too. Regards, Daniel
