On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Or how would you ensure that > while the user can easily switch the init system, when doing so half of > the daemons installed won't start because they don't support the > alternative. And if he switches back, the other half does not start > because the only support the other alternative. IMO the hard problem is > mostly about which systems must be supported by all packages. > init-select does not help to solve this.
I completely agree that is entirely outside the scope of the problem init-select is meant to solve. Getting the individual init systems into a fully usable state is ultimately the responsibility of the various teams working on their favorite init. >> I've set the maintainer to debian-boot now in the hope that this >> proposal sounds reasonable. There is of course more work to do, which >> is documented in a TODO file in the source, which will make the >> package better, but the existing functionality, I think, is already >> useful. I can switch inits on a whim in seconds now. > > I don't see why the installer team should be in any better position to > choose the default init system for Debian than any other team. At least > since I'm involved (~ 10 years) the mailinglist name for the installer > was a bit of a misnomer. The team has nothing to do with "everyday" > booting of the system. It probably comes from the fact that the > installer before d-i was called boot-floppies. For the same reason that the installer team reluctantly chooses the default desktop environment: that is the first path which the user actually needs to make a choice (or non-choice of course). Plus I think the project very much respects the unbiased decision-making process of the d-i team. This is why the TC decision will be troublesome: there was no way to keep bias and politicization out of the process, so a lot of the project will ultimately not respect the decision. Best wishes, Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CANTw=MP2K=1jinroch6adc4wt0z4lghtxd_wmndw6ft8fan...@mail.gmail.com
