On 04/06/2013 12:16 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > Le vendredi, 5 avril 2013 17.52:19, Thomas Goirand a écrit : >> On 04/05/2013 07:59 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: >>> And all of these features will only land for the next cycle >>> with a release in ~= 2 years time. >> I really hope that it wont be the case. That it doesn't go into >> Debian 7.0.0, I would understand, but at least, we need it >> for a point release. > Are you seriously arguing in favour of pushing a behavioural change into a > stable point release? I doubt the stable release team would accept that, but > I'm not under their hats.
I've wrote that we should at least address the issue, in a way or another, through the next point release if that is safer. But, are you seriously proposing that we leave the issue as-is ??? >> And at least, we need things written in the release notes about it, if not a >> message in the installer itself (Christian, don't kill me... ;). > I disagree. It has worked that way for a long time (and many releases in that > timeframe), so it is probably not "that" broken. Well, at least *I* didn't know it was broken (yes, you read well: BROKEN !!!), and I was quite shocked to read it, Knowing that absolutely nothing gives you clues about it is equally shocking. In fact, I saw that strange behaviors, and couldn't explain it. We are talking about someone who has been using Debian for 10 years. Now, think about someone who is a new comer... > I'm not saying the bug isn't valid of course, just that it's severity is IMHO > correct. > >> Could we stop the winning and have this bug fixed please, >> or the patch rejected (with a valid motivation)? > Could we stop the useless bikeshedding and have Wheezy released please? Sure. And let's add the fix for the next point release if everyone think it's not a good idea to fix it right now (though it's quite a shame we can't). That's all I'm saying. > As you know, d-i is critically low on manpower. Yes, I know. And the patch author is also right to tell that refusing contribution isn't a good idea to address this lack of manpower. As much as I don't agree with his tone, I do agree with the arguments. > You want that bug fixed? Great: test the patch, document your tests, upload > to > experimental with the patch, gather feedback, get involved, etc. For a fix to > land in Wheezy, this should have happened 8 months ago. Do you believe the legend that d-i was frozen 8 months ago? I don't... :D (only half joking here...) > Now is the time to > release Wheezy, not the time to add cosmetic and disruptive fixes to it. I don't agree it is cosmetic. I'm not sure it's disruptive. > (And > again, I think the changes are probably worthwhile, it's only the timing > which > is wrong.) Then make your case for the next point release, not for Jessie, please ! Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/515f208a.7040...@debian.org
