2011/10/29 Philippe Clérié <phili...@gcal.net>: > On Friday 28 October 2011 14:33:08 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > >> i can, if you prefer, use a site like "pledgebank.com" - that might >> help people to understand that i'm not asking people for a >> "committment to buy". i'm asking people if they would be *willing* to >> commit to buying, if a certain threshold of other people also publicly >> made the exact same committment. > > At the prices you are talking about I am willing to commit to buy.
fantastic to hear, philippe. > I have a > couple of questions though. > > 1- I am not clear on the design you have in mind. Personally, I have three > use-cases: router, NAS, sound server (not Media server, I don't care about > video). I don't necessarily need them all in one system. Does your design > cover these uses? short answer: yes.... depending on what performance you're expecting. the limit is actually due to having to pick "lowest common denominator" interfaces for the EOMA/PCMCIA "meta-interface" aka Standard. but, the thing is that the "Lowest Common Denominator" is actually incredibly high. not "mad" high, but still damn good. * 10/100 ethernet has been around for... forever * USB2 has been around for over a decade * SATA-II likewise - decade. * I2C i don't even know * 24-pin RGB/TTL you don't care about, but it's there. now, on *some* SoCs, there is no SATA-II port on-board, so this has to be done with a USB-to-SATA converter. according to some quick google searches (and based on empirical observation of these "Set-Top-Box" style CPUs), the Chiprise aka BoxChip aka BMorn aka AllWinner CPU _should_ have on-board SATA-II.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1080P-HDMI1-3-2-5-SATA-HDD-Media-Player-DTS-H-264-NY52-/220879009813?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336d6a3815 yep, all signs so far are that it's a built-in SATA-II. i'd fall off my chair in shock if it doesn't have 10/100 Ethernet (that's the best i can do without having access to the datasheet because this is a STB-style CPU, they just... don't... hand... out... datasheets... plus despite all the names, we can't find the real company or its web site, in order to call them! the factory's on the case, they'll get them - eventually - even if it's by word-of-mouth inside china). > 2- I presume that you are talking about committing to quantities of one or > two systems. yes, that's right: it'll be a 1-or-2 price but that 1-or-2 price will still be lower by virtue of being part of a "group order". this is... unavoidable, but i think you'll find that even "worst case" it'll still be well below any cut-off point you might have in mind [except possibly the situation where only 10-20 units are wanted - then yep, the sums definitely don't add up, go figure]. issues like putting into boxes that would get split at customs (to save a bit of $), well... the percentages aren't entirely worth it, because the value of the goods is so small as in _legitimately_ so damn small not "let's put a fake value on the goods" small, it's... yeah, hardly worth doing. if there were 500 units shipped world-wide, now that's a different story. > Could you please confirm? I really just need a couple of very > low power systems that I can setup and forget! :) yes, i do mean 1 or 2. the weight's going to be tiny (please, _do_ source your own PSU, it's just not worth putting one in the box and paying extra for the size and the weight), the price low so the amount of customs duty is going to be low as well. actually, my major concern is that customs in each country won't _believe_ it's a fully-functioning computer with a replacement value so damn small, it'll get "red flagged". it's probably a good idea that this is pre-empted, and a letter put on the outside of each box, for Customs to read. btw... from experience: anyone in the UK, yes you can risk using ParcelForce, if you don't mind that they charge a £13 flat-rate "handling" fee on VAT collection. bastards. you would do well to follow the advice of this guy. by following it you can successfully tell ParcelForce to get stuffed, _and_ still get the goods: http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?94811-Parcelforce-Fees-for-Collecting-VAT&p=3593303&viewfull=1#post3593303 there are also additional posts on that forum where Fedex have passed over collection of "their" quotes fee quotes to Debt Collection Agencies, but a simple letter to the DCA involved, stating that there is no contract between Fedex and yourself regarding this "fee", results in the DCA involved giving Fedex absolute hell for wasting their time. the important thing is to dispute the fees, immediately, and go from there. there's some empirical evidence to support the hypothesis that ParcelForce actually _delete_ the invoice (like, literally wipe the SQL entry) from their database if you cause enough fuss. this has me sufficiently alarmed to entertain the possibility that ParcelForce may actually be committing fraud, or their Directors prosecuted for extortion. > I've had occasion to deal with people who deal with Chinese manufacturers, > but in fields far removed from electronics. What you describe does sound > familiar. mwahhhh :) i ain't got to the bit about having to send some along to check that the containers don't contain bricks, yet *lol*. i know someone who's quite happy to go to china and literally kick their desks over until they refund the money, if that happens, but it generally only occurs on the really really big orders (otherwise it's not worth the thieves time!). it'd serve them right for employing chinese shipping agents who thought it was ok to embezzle from gwailo foreigners. but, yeah, that only happens if you use untrustworthy shipping agents. the lesson here is: don't use untrustworthy shipping agents! l. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capweedxariwfgdqwl1x1dqfkioghqyvstcjscn2jehz64o9...@mail.gmail.com
