On Oct 28, 2011, at 17:39, Zygmunt Bazyli Krynicki wrote:

> Wysłane z iPhone'a

^^ heh

>> 
>> Android's Linux kernels are supported (maintained?) by Linaro.
> 
> With my Linaro hat on I must object. Depending on what you meant the 
> statement above is either highly inaccurate or simply untrue.

Hence the question mark. :)
> 
> Android kernel situation is complicated and varies per board/SoC. What Linaro 
> does is try to upstream and unify the kernel for Linaro member companies SoCs.

What does that mean in practice?

> This is far from finished and uniform. The "BSP" kernel that hardware vendors 
> provide is not supported by Linaro and in fact often contains code that 
> cannot go upstream.

What does it use this proprietary code for? To know the APIs or to get other 
hardware interface info? Isn't that a little risky? Won't proprietary, and 
potentially patented IP leak into the Linaro work? (Not that I believe in IP.)

> Linaro has several trees, including a grand unification tree that tries to 
> support all the member companies chips in one tree (and one binary, thanks to 
> device trees) but this effort is years away (my personal estimate, I don't 
> speak for the organization). In addition we have several trees for 
> normal/androidized kernel for each board. In the latest 2011.10 release 
> hardware was not supported in 100% on any board that I'm aware of.
> 
> Having said that the term "supported" seems inappropriate to me. We do work 
> on those boards though.

How would you define it?
> 
>> Anything that runs Android can run GNU/Linux.
> 
> This is a gross oversimplification IMHO. You usually get androidized BSP 
> kernel from a few months/years ago with binary parts that have no 
> corresponding source code. Good luck booting vanilla kernel there.

But it appears to me that all the official boards that are targets for Linaro 
can run a vanilla kernel, is that not the case? If not, what BSP stuff are you 
referring to - graphics acceleration?

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