I had gone with the default software selection of 1,6,10,12 for accessibility. Speakup says ok on booting and nothing else until I ctty into tty1 then I get a login prompt and can log into the system. orca does not come up talking when system is allowed to run until the disk drive goes silent. Using orca -e is ineffective. Will it be possible to have orca come up talking on this system and if not I hope I'll be able to remove the debian desktop environment and mate. Haven't tried that yet since I'm to move and haven't got time to do much with computers for a few days.
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