Hi,

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 01:09:25AM +0100, Martín Ferrari wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> My last message on the topic, I don't want to drag this discussion for ever.
> 
> 
> First of all, I am a bit worried that there is not much discussion about
> this, saving for discussions about how to run a raffle.
> 
> I saw just a couple of concerns about the points I am discussing here,
> and no endorsements. I cannot predict if the silence is due to
> endorsement or to not caring. I believe this is an important decision.
> Please people, speak up!
> 
> On 10/09/14 00:35, Michael Banck wrote:
> 
> > Also, note that at DebConf14 basically everything we put in the brochure
> > (before DC14 started) happened on an ad-hoc basis: the sponsor booth
> > (some sponsors seemed to put up tables to talk to attendees), the job
> > fair (rather inofficial, but still), the sponsoring of some events (in
> > this case even the C&W party, plus an off-site social event), the raffle
> > etc.  The amount of push-back was rather small I believe. I explicitly
> > asked a couple of attendees I know well and believed they may be opposed
> > to them, but they did not see the sky falling.
> 
> It is true it was ad-hoc and the sky didn't fall. But the key point is
> that it was ad-hoc, and in the case of the C&W, that it solved a problem
> for the organisers.
> Personally, I didn't like much the HP event being announced almost as
> something official, but did not want to cause a fuss about it either.

+1

> Note that I am not opposing to the job fair or the booths. It is the
> sponsoring of the social events that I feel is kind of wrong, going
> against our spirit. It feels like monetising the conference, that's why
> I feel uneasy.

Yep.

> I would rather cut the costs (or the existence) of all these (C&W,
> dinner, day trip, sponsored beverages) than selling them.

I'd go for it too. Although madduck's answer to my concerns on this made
me believe that they won't go to extremes :)

I have a feeling that all these new sponsoring experiments will create
more trouble than fixings/improving things. Actually I think we're
trying to fix a non-issue.

Regarding the raffle, oh... I know I'm looking like the
annoying guy here but I'll let you know my opinion anyway: if one really
needs a raffle to attend a talk/meeting on the morning I prefer keep one
saving time and energy in his/her bed.

Regards,

-- 
tiago
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