On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:18:53 -0700 Steve Langasek <vor...@debian.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 03:12:48AM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > > On 09/27/2013 03:47 PM, martin f krafft wrote: > > > also sprach Patty Langasek <harmo...@dodds.net> [2013.09.27.1928 +0200]: > > >> 2. DebCamp - yes or no? We do not have official venue (talk rooms) > > >> for the week prior to our reserved dates (or the week after). > > >> If we do have DebCamp, it will need to be restricted in number > > >> and time (it won't be a week long). > > > > I think we should stick with DebCamp and we should try as hard as > > > possible to make it as long as possible. > > > > We do not need talk rooms for that, but we do need hack space for 80 > > > people or thereabouts (with whiteboards ideally). And accomodation > > > and food. > > > I also think we should try to retain debcamp if at all possible. As > > someone who has worked on the network infrastructure for debconf in past > > conferences, debcamp is when much of the custom/specialized network > > setup and testing actually happens. > > You'll certainly get no disagreement from me about the importance of having > reliable infrastructure for the conference, but sponsoring 80 people to come > in for a week and manually stress-test it before DebConf is a poor way to > accomplish that. We can do much better - we have deep and broad > professional knowledge in Debian when it comes to infrastructure, and we > have a lot of time to get this figured out. The venue is open to the > public, and we could start working with PSU's network team *immediately* to > identify any infrastructure shortfalls. We just need someone with > experience running the DebConf network to lay out for us what the > requirements are, in black and white. > > In fact, wiki.debconf.org seems like a nice place to record such things. ;) > I've created a blank page with some open questions; I would appreciate it if > those who have experience running the DebConf network would help fill it > out. > > https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Requirements/Network > Video Team has something in a wiki page [0] can be useful to know what video team needs. I checked the DebConf Manual [1] but there is nothing about the Network. > > If we only get access to the facilities the first day of debconf, i > > suspect that we will have a conference network much poorer than people > > have grown to expect. We will probably also have a much grumpier > > network team (is that possible?) because setup work will take them away > > from the other scheduled activities of the conference itself. > > > If we have no debcamp, does the PDX team have a proposal for how to get > > the conference network in place effectively starting on the first day? > > DebCamp is NOT about DebConf setup. We will ensure that the network and > video teams have all reasonable access for setup before the start of the > conference, and are prepared for the local team to act in an advanced > reconnaissance role wrt the venue facilities. But let's not conflate that > with the question of DebCamp. > Right, DebCamp is not about DebConf setup, as it is in the debian wiki[2], is about hacking, so IMHO it would be really great to have DebCamp as usual :) Regards, [0] https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Videoteam/Network [1] https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Category:DebConf_Manual [2] https://wiki.debian.org/DebCamp -- Norman García Aguilar <nor...@riseup.net> _______________________________________________ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
