I propose a A2 option: We tell LeCamp: we are committed to come in LeCamp, but now we don't have enough money. We (local team) are pretty sure that we will have enough money for the two weeks, but *now* we can only book for 7 or 10 days (not to have financial troubles or giving you financial troubles).
PS. I'm away, so no meeting for me tonight. Ciao. Cate Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <o...@debian.org> wrote: >Hi all, > >thanks Gaundenz for this concise and clear mail that summarizes my >feelings >quite well. > >Le jeudi, 22 novembre 2012 12.04:52, Gaudenz Steinlin a écrit : >> IMO the most important topic for tonights meeting is the decision >about >> how to proceed with Le Camp. We promised them to have a decision by >the >> end of November. So to be fair and keep that promise we have to >decide >> now. > >Yes, absolutely. Either way. Postponing the decision with regards to Le >Camp >means deciding against Le Camp as far as (I understand) our discussion >with >their director go. So we should rather take that "no" decision than >postponing. > >> C) We decide to drop Le Camp and to find another venue. While this >> avoids the costs of Le Camp this has considerable other costs. I >> think there is agreement among the locals that more than 10% >cheaper >> is just not possible. But we will also loose a lot of motivation. >> Unless we find something very similar to Le Camp, this won't be >the >> DebConf we presented in our bid. (...) > >This is a quite important argument IMHO. > >This has been challenged before by some saying that the locals of the >team >could just organize another DebConf, around Switzerland (and not >necessarily >in LeCamp, but that's tengential to the point). > >While this might eventually be true, what I can say is that it isn't >for me: >I'm motivated by the organisation of DebConf13 in LeCamp (or in a >LeCamp-ish >location) because that's what we opted for as a group and what we >proudly >presented as our option during the bid process. Organizing a different >DebConf >was an full part of our project. That said, I'm also a volunteer and I >can't >(and won't) garantee to stay motivated (or involved fwiw) if we decide >to go >another way. That's not to put pressure on the decision process, but I >feel >it's important to be conscious of the downsides of going the C) way. > >> In our opinion we have to take a decision now and should absolutely >not >> postpone. If no decision is taken, I will take a vacation from >Debconf >> organisation until at least the end of this year. The emotional >stress >> of the current situation is just too much for me and I think that I >> better spend my time on other things in this case. While I have a >> preference for one option, I can live with any decision as long as >there >> is a decision now. > >Absolutely; and I am leaning to do mostly the same. > >This indecision doesn't help to move this (our) project forward and >eats a lot >of (my) energy by itself; we have to get out of it, as soon as >possible. > >> Conclusion: My preference is A over B over C. > >+ 1. > >Cheers, > >OdyX > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Debconf-team mailing list >Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org >http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. _______________________________________________ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
