Richard Darst <r...@zgib.net> writes: > On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 05:16:08PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > >> And for this comparison, please redo the comparison based on the DC10 >> numbers >> instead. And thanks already! ;-) > > I'm going to assume people can do basic math, and not be insulted by > being asked to do something where there is a much simpler method: > > DC12: ~ 60 kUSD > DC11: 55 kUSD (= 33.5 kEUR at that time, using mid 2001 conversion rate) > DC10: 92 kUSD (85 kUSD excluding exclusive local sources) > DC9: ~120 kUSD (= 83 kEUR in 2009) > > I am using USD just since I started with assumption USD=CHF to make > things easy, but should have been using EUR. > > So I was hoping people would realize that 150% of DC12 is about the > DC10 amount. This is why 150% we consider "safe" and 200% is > considered a lot. (Using today's rate, 92 kUSD is 86 kCHF)
OK I did a bit more than basic math. I have commited my version of the budget to the SVN repository as budget-gaudenz.ods. I made those changes to darst budget: - I added one platinum sponsor as this is now confirmed (also commited to budget-darst.ods) - I added 5'000 each for bar profits and bed upselling. - I adjusted the number of professional attendees to 60. The total amount of prof/corp fees is now similar to DC10. - Reduced the food costs by 0.8 as this is now agreed with Le Camp (see contract proposal). Darst and hug, if you agree with my changes, feel free to incorporate those into your budget and to remove my file from SVN to avoid confusion. I left all other numbers as they were. In my opinion this is still a quite conservative budget as it contains some expenses that could easily be reduced if needed. The possible reductions for a worst case budget are about the same amount as the incomes I increased. The following table shows how many participants we can afford with this budget: 90'000 CHF sponsorship / no travel sponsorship / 40 prof: 50 DebCamp, 183 DebConf 90'000 CHF sponsorship / 15k travel sponsorship / 40 prof: 50 DebCamp, 117 DebConf 90'000 CHF sponsorship / no travel sponsorship / 60 prof: 50 DebCamp, 236 DebConf 90'000 CHF sponsorship / 15k travel sponsorship / 60 prof: 50 DebCamp, 170 DebConf 110'000 CHF sponsorship / no travel sponsorship / 60 prof: 80 DebCamp, 300 DebConf 110'000 CHF sponsorship / 30k travel sponsorship / 60 prof: 50 DebCamp, 190 DebConf I encourage everyone to play with the budget spreadsheet if they want to see the effects for themselves or make alternative proposals. Gaudenz > > - Richard > > p.s. One can also notice trends of decreasing sponsorship, despite > still needing it (e.g. dc12, dc11 had lots of local sponsorship which > isn't accounted for.). Another way we know this isn't just lack of > effort is various major sponsors amounts have been declining. OTOH we currently after 1.5 weeks already have more than half of the total amount raised for DC12. -- Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. ~ Samuel Beckett ~ _______________________________________________ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
