Can you please upload somewhere and post link here?

Thank you!

Darjan Prtic


2011/5/25 Bojana Borkovic <lunacy...@gmail.com>

> @Darjan
>
> We've already done that, I think over a month ago or even more. We've
> visited the tourist bureau, gathered all the brochurs and maps, scanned
> everything and sent it to Vedran Omeragic.
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Darjan Prtic <dpr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> @Dejan
>> Great work. Looks really nice atm.
>>
>> @Philip Hands
>> Localteam members from Banjaluka mentioned something about having map from
>> local tourist office with much more details and markings. We could use those
>> markings and update OSM based on that info. I wouldn't mind working few
>> hours on that cuz that stays for later use by anyone, not just DebConf.
>>
>> It would be nice if Bojana or Zlatan(whoever has that tourist office map)
>> to scan it and upload it here so we can at least check markings and have a
>> clue what you were talking about when you mentioned that map.
>>
>> Sorry guys that we are black hole on google and bing maps.
>>
>> Darjan Prtic
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:10, Philip Hands <p...@hands.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 25 May 2011 10:07:11 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard <d...@jones.dk>
>>> wrote:
>>> > On 11-05-24 at 10:26pm, Adnan Hodzic wrote:
>>> > > One of our local team members from Tuzla (Dejan Marjanovic) did
>>> > > amazing job on working out the travel details on how to to get to
>>> > > Banja Luka.
>>> > >
>>> > > Please check www.DebConf11.com as it's one stop "shop" for all
>>> > > information regarding needed information to get to Banja Luka, your
>>> > > stay there and eventual departure.
>>> >
>>> > Wauw!
>>> >
>>> > Is that website a Free Software project?  I would be interested in
>>> > looking closer at both the design of the site (e.g. look at applying
>>> > Kalle's Debian design using Sass), and the data points (e.g. juggling
>>> > with OpenStreetMap and RDF).
>>>
>>> I'm somewhat suspicious of the provenance of that map, given the lack of
>>> any copyright notice.
>>>
>>> Picking an area almost at random (I actually chose Frana Supila on the
>>> JPG on the basis that it was an unusual shape) I thought I'd compare it
>>> with openstreetmap, and found that it was this bit:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.78067&lon=17.21028&zoom=17&layers=M
>>>
>>> which, when I looked at it, was missing most of Frana Supila as shown on
>>> the JPG.
>>>
>>> That being the case, I thought I'd check what the Bing imagery is
>>> like -- it's very high res, so I traced in the roads for this little
>>> area, so by the time you look at it, it may well have a load of
>>> residential roads and tracks there, rather than whitespace.
>>>
>>> Doing this demonstrated that the JPG map is about as partial as OSM was
>>> for that area -- it is missing the exit from Bulevar Srpske Vojske onto
>>> Frana Suplia, for instance.
>>>
>>> The difference being that in the mean time, I've fixed that bit of OSM.
>>>
>>> As mentioned (repeatedly) on IRC, can we have map data with a decent
>>> provenance, where the data is properly licensed such that if any of it's
>>> better than OSM, we can merge them.
>>>
>>> For instance, I know that webarto on IRC said that the POI information
>>> was fine, but I got the slight impression that he (she?) allows
>>> enthusiasm to overcome such details -- what is the copyright situation
>>> on those POIs -- are they unencumbered enough to include into OSM?
>>>
>>> There was something about them having been prepared for Garmin.  If that
>>> was a work for hire, normal copyright law would make them Garmin's
>>> property.
>>>
>>> Anyway, as stated already, we should use OSM, and in areas where locals
>>> react to that by saying "but look, it's wrong over here" then they
>>> should be encouraged to sign up with an OSM account, and edit it.  Given
>>> that the hi-res imagery is available, and Potlach2 runs in any
>>> Flash-able browser (mouse-over the edit button, and take the second
>>> option of the drop-down menu) there's not much excuse for not just
>>> fixing it -- especially since the best alternative we have is also
>>> wrong, and is _not_ easily fixed.
>>>
>>> BTW How many times is this going to have to be repeated before it's
>>> listened to?  Let's try stating it as an ultimatum:
>>>
>>>  We cannot have the Debian name associated with data of dubious
>>>  provenance and/or licensing, so if it's a choice between having no
>>>  map, or a map that was "found" somewhere, we'll have no map.
>>>
>>> (of course, since OSM is about as good as the map you're using, this
>>> should not arise, but what of the POIs?)
>>>
>>> Having said all that, as I've also said before: Good Effort :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers, Phil.
>>> --
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