Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11307 March 1977, MJ Ray wrote: > > The lack of topic grouping is a bug in debconf set-up, isn't it? > > I don't think so. If you think so - feel free to bring it up in an own > discussion in the debconf-team list. [...]
OK, but I'll wait and see whether there's support for that, if it's too late for 08 anyway. > > Also, as a non-geek, I find debconf attendees in general a stressful > > and tiring group to interact with, so I burn out after a few days of that > > effort. > > Thats pretty offending to every DebConf attendee. Or maybe it is because > you aren't "in the community" as others are, but mostly seem to rant > (and sometimes raise valid points) from some halfway outsiders point. I > dont know. I *love* to be at DebConf (and DebCamp), and for me it could > run for two months and more. Please no-one be offended that I pointed out that there are stress-inducing cultural differences among us. We've already seen the effects of that many times in varied ways - denying it won't improve matters. Maybe that means I will never be "in the community" in that sense, or maybe I should stick to events which are more on my terms - I'd think that both were serious bugs, but I can't really expect all those currently "in the community" to agree about that. I apologise for any rant appearances. Sometimes I try to keep quiet about perceived bugs which I don't think others will consider bugs (trying for a quiet life, which was one source of stress at debconf) until I explode into linguistic pyrotechnics. > > Finally, while debian *use* is mostly work for me, debian > > *development* is mostly a hobby. How many people will spend over a > > solid week away for their hobby each year? Does debconf not want > > mainstream developers? > > That question can't be serious, really. Except, well, if you run around > with some kind of blinkers (Scheuklappen in german) - there are *MANY* > people, not only with some IT stuff as a hobby, who spent *much* more > time for their hobby every year. In total, perhaps, but how many other hobbies run over a solid week away every year that includes key organisational development? I think that youth projects are among the most demanding, but the Woodcraft Folk's week-long Venturer Camp is only once every three years IIRC and Guiding/Scouting's international camps and jamborees seem to be evenly split between 3 or 4 days and a week or longer. All of those focus on personal development more than developing the projects, too. Among my other hobbies that I remembered and found details about immediately, the longest event was a week, which was a mixed personal development and publicity stunt thing. Among work events, the longest event that came readily to mind is three days. What about other people's hobbies? [...] > There is a lot of willingness and effort to making DebConf better - just > some things are possible and some don't, some may take time. Glad to hear it. I hadn't noticed many obvious changes from the last one, so I was worried that the improvement was tailing off and it would never be worth me attending another debconf. Regards, -- MJ Ray http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html tel:+44-844-4437-237 - Webmaster-developer, statistician, sysadmin, online shop builder, consumer and workers co-operative member http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ - Writing on koha, debian, sat TV, Kewstoke http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ _______________________________________________ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
