On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:32:47PM +0000, MJ Ray said: > Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Quoting MJ Ray ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > I mean the preliminary schedule of which general topics are hoped to > > > be on which days, so part-time visitors can prioritise [...] > > > > I think it's pretty hard to expect something really reliable about > > this. To my experience, there has never been topic grouping in the > > schedule and, given the way Debconf sets itself up, I'd bet it will > > not happen. > > Thanks for the reply, but note I didn't ask for "something really > reliable", but for preliminary. > > The lack of topic grouping is a bug in debconf set-up, isn't it?
Like all things in free software, if this really bothers you, please volunteer to fix the bug you see. I have the impression from previous years that the schedule is the way it is because it is done by volunteers, it is a hard job, and getting the actual speakers to show up on the right day has proven to be a difficult task. I am sure if you think you can do a better job, or even just help, those currently saddled with doing the scheduling would be happy for the help. > > It's understandable that it may be disappointing for part-time > > visitors as you have no idea of the better schedule you should follow > > (IIRC, you had this problem in EDI). OTOH, when coming from Europe, do > > you really expect to stay only 3 or 4 days? > > Yes, I'd really much prefer that. If I travel from Europe, I am > unlikely to be alone (yay health) and others who would probably be > with me don't care about debconf AFAIK. Also, as a non-geek, I find > debconf attendees in general a stressful and tiring group to interact > with, so I burn out after a few days of that effort. Finally, while > debian *use* is mostly work for me, debian *development* is mostly a > hobby. How many people will spend over a solid week away for their > hobby each year? Does debconf not want mainstream developers? Thank you for the usual aggressive tone I expect from you. You do realize that when you call everyone else involved in Debconf a geek, question our motives, and call us tiresome to interact with, it demotivates me to want to assist you? > > Debconf is, more or less by definition, something that you really > > benefit from when you participate to the entire event, really. > > It's a shame if there's no willingness to make debconf more easily > accessible to a wider range of developers. It seems likely to lead to > forking as we grow, with all the drawbacks that involves. If you think forking before offering to help makes sense, I welcome you to it. Good luck. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Stephen Gran | Felson's Law: To steal ideas from one | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | person is plagiarism; to steal from | | http://www.lobefin.net/~steve | many is research. | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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