Am 21.09.2014 um 11:47 schrieb Paul J Stevens: > It may well be dbmail/gmime doing this. But then, there is nothing in > the rfcs that specifies such proprietary formatting of headers, afaik. > If there is, please let me know, so I can ask Jeff to fix gmime.
that's not a matter of RFC's that's a matter of usability and modify data honestly after re-construct a message should appear binary identical as it came through the MTA - frankly some headers can be part of a signature checksum why are received headers not fucked up the same way? they use the same "proprietary formatting" and the "References" field looks also fine - so why mangle "X-Spam-Report" Received: from dbmail01.icns.fastxs.net (dbmail01.icns.fastxs.net [213.214.111.4]) by mail-gw.thelounge.net (THELOUNGE GATEWAY) with ESMTP id 3j13pp4Rwnz1l for <h.rei...@thelounge.net>; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 11:47:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dbmail01.icns.fastxs.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 56324E22D; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 11:47:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dbmail01.icns.fastxs.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4AB19E20B; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 11:47:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mx3.nfg.nl (mx3.nfg.nl [194.109.214.22]) by dbmail01.icns.fastxs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B36E1AC for <dbmail@dbmail.org>; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 11:47:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.nfg.nl (mail2.nfgs.net [194.109.214.20]) by mx3.nfg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5870860171 for <dbmail@dbmail.org>; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:10:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.1.42] (nfg1 [83.160.122.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.nfg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 526B91437C for <dbmail@dbmail.org>; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 11:52:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <541e9e97.2030...@nfg.nl> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 11:47:03 +0200 From: Paul J Stevens <p...@nfg.nl> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 To: DBMail mailinglist <dbmail@dbmail.org> References: <5405ddd1.70...@thelounge.net> <001901cfc6c9$8d800fe0$a8802fa0$@jorge> <5406a8c1.7090...@lordvan.com> <77fbe1ac-79ea-42d2-8504-342f458c6...@email.android.com> In-Reply-To: <77fbe1ac-79ea-42d2-8504-342f458c6...@email.android.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Dbmail] re-formatting of headers X-BeenThere: dbmail@dbmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: DBMail mailinglist <dbmail@dbmail.org> List-Id: DBMail mailinglist <dbmail.dbmail.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mailman.fastxs.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/options/dbmail>, <mailto:dbmail-requ...@dbmail.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://mailman.fastxs.nl/pipermail/dbmail> List-Post: <mailto:dbmail@dbmail.org> List-Help: <mailto:dbmail-requ...@dbmail.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://mailman.fastxs.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail>, <mailto:dbmail-requ...@dbmail.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: dbmail-boun...@dbmail.org Errors-To: dbmail-boun...@dbmail.org X-Virus-Scanned: Yes X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.5, tag-level=4.5, block-level=8.0 X-Spam-Report: * -0.0 CUST_DNSWL_3 RBL: dnswl-aggregate.thelounge.net (Low Trust) * [213.214.111.4 listed in dnswl-aggregate.thelounge.net] * 0.0 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail * domains are different * -2.0 USER_IN_MORE_SPAM_TO User is listed in 'more_spam_to' * -2.5 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] > On 03-09-14 09:25, Reindl Harald (mobile) wrote: >> The last recent stable ones as always, dbmail 3.1.x and gmime 2.6.x >> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- >> Von: Thomas Raschbacher <lord...@lordvan.com> >> Gesendet: 03. September 2014 07:36:01 MESZ >> An: dbmail@dbmail.org >> Betreff: Re: [Dbmail] re-formatting of headers >> >> What gmime and dbmail versions are you getting this with? >> >> Am 02.09.2014 18:51, schrieb Reindl Harald (mobile): >>> The current one - but how do that matter - SHA cli tools generate the >>> proper formatted on the same machine, SA Upstream says there is only one >>> place of code to generate this and the first response was "fix your mail >>> client it must be the one reformat the header" thunderbird is for sure >>> innocent, any download message has the same unreadable header >>> >>> >>> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- >>> Von: Jorge Bastos <mysql.jo...@decimal.pt> >>> Gesendet: 02. September 2014 18:18:37 MESZ >>> An: 'DBMail mailinglist' <dbmail@dbmail.org> >>> Betreff: Re: [Dbmail] re-formatting of headers >>> >>> Which spamassassin version? >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: dbmail-boun...@dbmail.org [mailto:dbmail-boun...@dbmail.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Reindl Harald >>>> Sent: terça-feira, 2 de Setembro de 2014 16:10 >>>> To: Mailing-List dbmail >>>> Subject: [Dbmail] re-formatting of headers >>>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> who does that bad to spamassassin headers? >>>> gmime or dbmail? >>>> can this be avoided? >>>> >>>> normally they are expected to look like the second example which is a >>>> different mail but you know what i mean, that's what SA generates >>>> orginally >>>> >>>> X-Spam-Report: * -2.5 CUST_DNSWL_5 RBL: list.dnswl.org (High Trust) >>>> * >>>> [168.100.1.7 listed in list.dnswl.org] * -0.0 CUST_DNSWL_1 RBL: >>>> dnswl-low.thelounge.net (Low Trust) * [168.100.1.7 listed in >>>> dnswl-low.thelounge.net] * -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good >>>> reputation (+3) >>>> * [168.100.1.7 listed in wl.mailspike.net] * 0.0 >>>> HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail >>>> * >>>> domains are different * 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly >>>> abused >>>> enduser mail provider * (fernando.souto.maior[at]gmail.com) >>>> * 0.0 >>>> NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP URI: URI host has a public dotted-decimal IPv4 >>>> * >>>> address * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * 2.0 >>>> BAYES_50 >>>> BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% * [score: 0.4981] >>>> * 0.3 >>>> HTML_OBFUSCATE_05_10 BODY: Message is 5% to 10% HTML obfuscation >>>> * -0.5 >>>> DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's >>>> * >>>> domain * -0.5 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK >>>> signature * 0.5 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not >>>> necessarily * valid * -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike >>>> good senders * >>>> 0.0 FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN 2nd level domains in From and * >>>> EnvelopeFrom freemail headers are different >>>> Return-Path: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org >>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >>>> boundary=089e01493a0c18807d0502166800 >>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>> _______ >>>> >>>> X-Spam-Report: >>>> * -2.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP >>>> * 7.5 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 99 to 100% >>>> * [score: 0.9973] >>>> * 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, >>>> adsp_override is >>>> * CUSTOM_MED >>>> * 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser >>>> mail provider >>>> * (reindl.harald[at]gmail.com) >>>> * 2.0 DEAR_SOMETHING BODY: Contains 'Dear (something)' >>>> * 0.6 URG_BIZ BODY: Contains urgent matter >>>> * 0.0 LOTS_OF_MONEY Huge... sums of money >>>> * 0.0 T_MONEY_PERCENT X% of a lot of money for you >>>> * 0.0 ADVANCE_FEE_4_NEW Appears to be advance fee fraud >>>> (Nigerian 419) >>>> * 0.0 ADVANCE_FEE_5_NEW Appears to be advance fee fraud >>>> (Nigerian 419) >>>> * 0.0 ADVANCE_FEE_5_NEW_MONEY Advance Fee fraud and lots of >>>> money >>>> * 0.0 ADVANCE_FEE_4_NEW_MONEY Advance Fee fraud and lots of >>>> money
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