The problem is that AI is the natural outcome of digital photography. Until now, digital photography was like film photography by other means: light flowing into the lens, hitting a sensor instead of film emulsion, postprocessing... and voilà. Digital always evolves to convergence: computation comes into play and photography is becoming something different (this is why I started practicing film photography 2 years ago). I agree with you AI in photography is bad, for many reasons, but this is not about photography anymore. Paolo
Il giorno ven 22 set 2023 alle ore 15:03 Bernhard < darkta...@intervalsignals.org> ha scritto: > I'm not sure how to differentiate AI and ML (machine learning) and and > according to the manual the WB mechanisms in color calibration are using ML > ... so is the claim intended here realy 100% true? > > https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/4.2/en/module-reference/processing-modules/color-calibration/#cat-tab-workflow > > Graham White schrieb am 22.09.23 um 13:44: > > I'm not too happy with supporting this, but I'm also not happy about the > > gung ho approach to AI which seems > > so common these days. I don't think that what people now call AI could be > > called AI worthy of the name, but I still think it's possibly useful, > maybe > > (though I think mostly it's either catastrophically boring or not > actually > > artificial intelligence). But what one might call it > > (algorithmic image manipulation, for example, or information theoretic > > image manipulation) might be interesting and/or useful. Just don't call > it > > AI. > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 11:47 AM Jason Polak <jpo...@jpolak.org> wrote: > > > >> Dear darktable devs, > >> > >> I am not sure how well this will be received, but I have a proposal. > >> Probably everyone knows that AI and particularly generative AI is taking > >> the world by storm. Adobe and many other Raw developers embed it into > their > >> products. > >> > >> One of the great things about darktable is that it does not offer any AI > >> tools. This is amazing because people can use it as a product without > >> supporting AI (simply using AI is supporting its development). > >> > >> I was wondering what the devs thought about this? > >> > >> My thinking is that AI takes us out of the realm of free-functioning > >> creativity by making creative decisions for us. It's a mechanization of > >> photography and it ultimately harms it. > >> > >> So, IF you agree with this, I was wondering if the darktable team would > >> like to make a stand with me against AI, by stating that darktable will > not > >> use AI in the future, or offer any AI tools? I know this email may seem > >> rather strange to all of you but I think AI poses a real danger to > >> humanity. I am creating a sort of informal coalition of artists and > people > >> who do not use AI. > >> > >> I have a YouTube channel and I already put "AI Free" on my YouTube > >> channel. I attached an example of the button I created in Inkscape for > this > >> and I provided an SVG for some ideas. I know this sounds rather radical, > >> and I am not trying to force anything on anyone. Everyone has to make > their > >> own choice about AI..... > >> > >> Again, I know I'm a bit strange but please at least consider this > message. > >> The more people that actively advocate against AI, the better. So, IF > >> anyone reading this has any qualms about AI and there is some sort of > >> consensus, please consider my proposal. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Jason Polak -- A long time darktable user and person who loves > >> photography, "human style" > >> > ___________________________________________________________________________ > >> darktable developer mailing list > >> to unsubscribe send a mail to > >> darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > -- > > regards > Bernhard > > https://www.bilddateien.de > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or ___________________________________________________________________________ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
