Sorry, but is this about darktable taking ages to import 500.000 for the first time or about darktable being slow AFTER the import?
If it is the first case then there is nothing wrong - do the import over night or interrupt it and continue next day. That is a huge amount of images and it will take some time but you only need to do it once. After that it will be fast, this is how darktable is intended to work. If it is the second case please specify your setup. Darktable should should still be reasonable fast but performance might be improved code-wise. If 1) is not a solution to you then you should use an existing file browser such as gwenview. This is not a darktable use case and the chance for someone to develop it is is close to 0. And I think other tools such as Lightroom or Shotwell will not import any faster. Best regards, Jan ---------------------------------------- 07.10.2021 15:49:20 Bernhard <darkta...@intervalsignals.org>: > Hi Graham, > > sorry, but this is - for technical reasons - not correct - besides that > darktable is very capable in both tasks already: managing images as well as > editing. > > But: for technical reasons with non-destructive imaging you never see what > you get in any other application than the one you are editing the images. > I already mentioned this paper > <https://web.archive.org/web/20140912051214/http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/pdfs/non_destructive_imaging.pdf> > for more background. > > That's why I - and obviously many others, including the devs who thankfully > spend many efforts in also making the image management more powerful with > each release - see darktable as a program for both tasks. > And hey ... I like to see e. g. the final crop, the correct exposure, the > removed spots and all those things done on the edited image in the image > overview (call it lighttable or browser or whatever else) when I have to > select one of those images from my archive for a given purpose ... > > Any other app will always show either the embedded camera jpg (like e. g. > geeqie) or some raw calculation of the original RAW ... not what I want. > > -- > > regards > Bernhard > > https://www.bilddateien.de > > Graham White schrieb am 07.10.21 um 16:10: >> Hi. I think there may be some cultural background that you're not aware of, >> which is this. Linux (and Unix before that) >> was developed on the philosophy of "one task one program" (see >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy ), according to >> which programs were designed to do one thing and to do it well: >> coordination between tasks was handled by >> interaction between programs. This is the way that your operating system >> works (it's not just Linux: any modern operating >> system works that way), and the benefits of it are that it avoids >> reinventing the wheel, that it improves performance (because single-task >> programs tend to be smaller and faster than big bloated ones, and so on). >> >> Now with photo editing, there are two tasks. One of them is maintaining a >> catalogue of images: I use Shotwell for that. Shotwell's quite >> old, but it's reliable and fast. When I want to edit a photo, I get >> Shotwell to open it in Darktable. Darktable only does one thing, which >> is to edit images: it's not an image catalogue. And (being an old and >> wizened Linux user) I think things should remain that way. >> >> Graham >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 8:40 PM Lorenzo Fontanella < >> fontanellalore...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Good evening Pascal >>> I speak about my needs of course, but I know many photographers who think >>> the same and are in the same situation. >>> I have a RAW + JPEG archive of about 500 000 files (video excluded), >>> consisting of files from various Nikon, Fujifilm Sigma (*) cameras. >>> >>> In my current state, it is impossible to import the whole archive, I tried >>> several times but even excluding the various errors in the import phase, I >>> ended up with an incredibly slow software that did not allow me to navigate >>> easily in the imported database and even to develop quickly, it had slowed >>> down a lot. >>> Now I use it by making partial imports of only the folders that interest >>> me, but even then, it is not easy. >>> >>> Other software like RawTherapee or Capture one that integrates a mix >>> between catalog and sessions (browser), allow me to be much more "agile" in >>> the process of selection, search and pre-assessment of the image, because >>> I'm not forced every time to import the entire folder to view and perform a >>> pre-development on the file to decide which to use. >>> >>> Legitimate question........ >>> Why don't you use this software since you speak so highly of it? >>> >>> Because even though DarkTable is conceived from a programming point of >>> view and not from a photographic point of view (I'm talking about the >>> ordering of the modules), even though it only works with a catalog and >>> forces me to import what I want to work on, even though the learning curve >>> is not linear........ IT'S BADLY POWERFUL, and it does a flawless job where >>> other emblazoned software fails miserably. >>> >>> (*) You claim that it is designed to develop RAW files, I assure you that >>> I have used it to work on Foveon files developed on Sigma Photo Pro and >>> exported to jpeg or even on files saved (by mistake) in jpeg from Sigma >>> cameras and I assure you that it has done a wonderful job. >>> >>> In short, it works and hell it works fantastically. >>> I understand that there is never enough time to spend on development and >>> you have to streamline. >>> But I urge you not to dismiss the option just because you don't see it as >>> useful, I assure you it would make a difference in terms of adoption of the >>> software by a great many users who now find it inconvenient due to the >>> import factor. >>> >>> I would also be willing to the slower generation of the previews, remember >>> that I use Sigma Photo Pro, the slowness has never been a problem, if it >>> serves to obtain a superlative result. >>> >>> Greetings >>> >>> Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) >>> >>> Lorenzo Fontanella >>> http://www.lorenzofontanella.it/ >>> >>> >>> Il giorno mer 6 ott 2021 alle ore 19:38 Pascal Obry <pas...@obry.net> ha >>> scritto: >>> >>>> Hi Lorenzo, >>>> >>>>> I'm obviously talking about the lack of a browser integrated to the >>>>> software that allows you to simply browse the folders of the HDD and >>>>> open the images you want to edit. >>>> The misunderstanding is probably there. darktable is not an image >>>> browser, it is not even designed to handle images but RAWs which are >>>> not images. So I don't see this as a good idea as generating previews >>>> for the RAWs will be slow, very slow. >>>> >>>> This is so by design, if you are looking for an image browser then for >>>> sure you don't want to look at darktable. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) >>>> >>>> The best way to travel is by means of imagination >>>> >>>> http://www.obry.net >>>> >>>> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B >>>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to >>> darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >>> >> > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___________________________________________________________________________ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
