Hi,

I have mixed feelings about the classical module approach for an EXIF
editor. See how the tagging module already behaves… not great.

Modules are good when you only have a couple of consistent options
(mostly sliders and drop-down boxes) used to do one thing. But given
that the sidebars can't be resized dynamically in width, and every user
will have a different available screen height / DPI, modules are
limited, and fixed heights are a burden.

I would advocate for a separate view for that, let's call it "digital
assets management" view. Use a film band, at the bottom of screen to
sort and select the pictures to edit (same as the darkroom one), and
take a full screen to put all text fields in a comfortable way. What you
are trying to do is a text editor, mostly. You could expand the EXIF
metadata editing with hierarchical tagging views, GPS/date overwriting,
ratings and maybe source file path edition (for orphan pictures in the
database).

Let's think bigger, for this kind of feature, than just squizzing "yet
another module" inside the already crowded lighttable.

Photojournalists for news agencies/papers/stock archives only rely on
the metadata of the pictures to get proper credits and salary, because
that's how agencies manage their stock. Thus the tagging/metadata
edition is a critical part of photography now (at least, for
professionals), which is holding back a lot of guys on Lightroom, and
should not be rushed into the easiest/fastest way the code the thing.
Let's think about efficient ways to batch-edit metadata for large sets
of pictures.

Aurélien.

Le 22/07/2019 à 18:42, philippe.weyl...@libertysurf.fr a écrit :
> Great !
>
>> it should be kept within the module, as this better fits the usual 
>> metadata-editing workflow.
> +1
>
>> The unwieldiness might be countered by letting the user specify what set of 
>> metadata keys should appear for editing.
> +1
> The user keys selection could be done / udapted in a pop window. To every key 
> the user should be able to select the corresponding metadata tag family 
> (exif, xmp, ...), at least the most common. But this can bring some 
> complexity too (language, ...).
>
> Philippe
>
> ----- Mail original -----
> De: "Maurizio Paglia" <mpagl...@gmail.com>
> À: "August Schwerdfeger" <aug...@schwerdfeger.name>
> Cc: "darktable" <darktable-dev@lists.darktable.org>
> Envoyé: Lundi 22 Juillet 2019 12:05:38
> Objet: Re: [darktable-dev] Full metadata editor
>
>
>
> Hi, 
> this is very interesting! 
> Sometimes I find dt panels a little restricting (i.e. the fixed dimensions do 
> not fit good for all the modules). 
> Maybe the request of having panels with different dimensions could help. 
> But is is possible to have each module expanded while clicking on its title? 
> I mean expanded in a window exceeding the dimension of the side panel where 
> you can see ALL controls. 
>
>
> To come back quickly to the original question I will prefere standard 
> behaviour instead of popup too. 
>
>
> Thanks, 
> Maurizio 
>
>
>
> Il giorno lun 22 lug 2019 alle ore 16:56 August Schwerdfeger < 
> aug...@schwerdfeger.name > ha scritto: 
>
>
>
>
> I am in favor of an expanded metadata editor, but I think it should be kept 
> within the module, as this better fits the usual metadata-editing workflow. 
> The unwieldiness might be countered by letting the user specify what set of 
> metadata keys should appear for editing. 
>
>

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