I guess I will have to record video tutorials in English then… Le 29/05/2019 à 08:00, François Tissandier a écrit : > "I personally think darktable should default to a neutral look (dark > and ugly), but not all the dev team agrees." > > It all depends what target you have for Darktable. There are probably > and surely not only pro photographers using it, and I'm not sure if > all the passionate amateurs are doing enough homework to know all the > theory and understand enough about the pixelpipe. I do not, > apparently. I tried to document myself a bit over the years, but > apparently, I still have a lot to learn :) I still don't think that an > "expert" app like Darktable should be too oriented to real experts in > the field, but i'm not the devs, it's your baby and you decide. I'm > one of the target for the app, there must be others like me. I'm using > tutorials to improve, reading also, but having an app that is both > able to go deep in the editing, but without being too complicated to > use at first seems like a good a balance. As you said Aurélien, if you > show first a very dark flat and ugly image to users, most of the > newcomers may just leave. If the default modules are, by design, a > poor choice or broken (like the infamous base curve), that's also a > problem. I'm not saying that all users must be assisted and pampered > like babies, but a good compromise can be found. Again, it's all in > the hands of the devs, and the kind of users you want for Darktable. > I'm just giving my point of view as the "passionate photographer who > doesn't know enough yet". > > François > > On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 7:49 AM Florian W <flo.wern...@gmail.com > <mailto:flo.wern...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > @Paul > > Appart from the manual, there's several people on youtube either > presenting what you can do module per module and what effect on an > image can be expected for each slider (technical approach), or > doing screen recording of photographs edit (retouch/artistic > approach) for a full processing or targeted to a specific issue (a > common one : noise reduction). Some do both. It is advised to > watch these in 1080p quality. > > Sometimes seeing the effect in live on several photographs of > different type (portrait, street, architectural...) is really a > good complement of the textual + photo description of the manual. > > Checkout (if not already done) Robert Hutton (english), Rawfiner , > carafife and Aurélien Pierre (french if you speak it). Aurélien > has a some video on filmic that are really helpful to understand > the technical aspect of the module, which can be a good help for > getting the result you want with it. I would be surprised that > none of these resource have no equivalent in other languages too. > > For the retouch process, more based on what you want to improve > rather than the tool to perform it, there's also a lot of > information targeted to Lightroom users in textual and videos on > the internet. > > Florian Wernert > Software engineer INSA > In-training Neuroscience researcher > https://www.linkedin.com/in/wernertflorian > > > > Le mer. 29 mai 2019 à 07:00, Andreas Schneider <a...@cryptomilk.org > <mailto:a...@cryptomilk.org>> a écrit : > > On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 5:48:30 AM CEST paul sorenson wrote: > > This thread is fascinating to me. Are there resources out > there for > > those who want to learn a more technical approach to editing > with > > Darktable. As has been mentioned elsewhere, the manual kind > of presents > > modules in isolation eg the base curve docs don't come with > a warning - > > well maybe a hint in the tip at the end. > > > > I am using 2.7 built from source with base curve turned off > but still > > tend to use filmic a bit by the seat of the pants. > > As always there are several ways to contribute to a Free and > Open Source > project. If you're not writing code, writing documentation is > a very good way > to contribute! > > -- > Andreas Schneider a...@cryptomilk.org > <mailto:a...@cryptomilk.org> > GPG-ID: 8DFF53E18F2ABC8D8F3C92237EE0FC4DCC014E3D > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > <mailto:darktable-dev%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > <mailto:darktable-dev%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
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