> > from the casual interactions it looks like among those not involved
> > there are likely to be two different views, (1) we need to use this
> > code to circumvent the censorship and (2) we already have this problem
> > theoretically modeled well so what’s the point of the leak
> >
> > At some point with leaks and things like this one expects to discover
> > (3) novel, hitherto unpublicized technologies for surveillance,
> > censorship, and popular control, the uncovering of which informs and
> > changes the public landscape of theoretical study
> >
> > Dunno if this is (3) but given how _outdated_ most of our classic
> > stuff is now (1) is actually very much worth considering despite the
> > confidence of (2) when coming from “free” nations or situations. I did
> > not see awareness of (2) expressed by (1) which likely would be
> > worrying
>
> of course what usually happens here is that (1) finds loopholes which
> turn into honeypots and controlled echo chambers (like mine!), like
> any situation where your surveillance research is itself surveilled by
> the adversary you’re researching

but roughly i’m guessing that some people likely associated with the
controlled nations are taking thism_very seriously_ whereas those from
“free” situations are not […
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