> > > > > > > > here's where i am but you're just going to tell me i'm wrong 
> > > > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > letting me understand it. you don't like my interest in finding 
> > > > > > > > what's
> > > > > > > > possible
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >                 # the collision point is the earliest 
> > > > > > > > intersection of
> > > > > > > > the swept-sphere paths the two spheres travel on
> > > > > > > >                 # selfdot(pos1+vel1*t) = rsquared
> > > > > > > >                 # selfdot(pos2+vel2*t) = rsquared
> > > > > > > >                 # selfdot(touchpt - (pos1 + vel1*t)) = rsquared
> > > > > > > >                 # selfdot(touchpt - (pos2 + vel2*t)) = rsquared
> > > > > > > >                 # simpler is to compare their distances to the 
> > > > > > > > sum of
> > > > > > > > their radii (inhibition forced us to look up on the internet >( 
> > > > > > > > )
> > > > > > > >                 # selfdot(pos1 + vel1*t, pos2 + vel2*t) = 
> > > > > > > > 4rsquared
> > > > > > > >                 # even simpler is to consider one the reference 
> > > > > > > > frame
> > > > > > > > for the other
> > > > > > > >                 # selfdot(pos12+vel12*t) = 4rsquared
> > > > > > > >                 # sum(pos12)**2 + sum(pos12*vel12)*t + 
> > > > > > > > sum(vel12)**2*t
> > > > > > > >                 # it's a quadratic equation where A = 
> > > > > > > > sum(vel12)**2, B
> > > > > > > > = sum(pos12*vel12), and C = sum(pos12)
> > > > > > > >                 # the quadratic equation is (-B +- 
> > > > > > > > sqrt(B^2-4AC))/(2A)
> > > > > > > >                 # so it's immediately rational from A, 
> > > > > > > > meanwhile you'd
> > > > > > > > need B^2-4AC to be a square number or a rational of square 
> > > > > > > > numbers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i'm starting to understand myself around it a little
> > > > > > > it looks like it's not reasonable to make B^2-4AC a square 
> > > > > > > number, and
> > > > > > > very hard to make it a rational of square numbers in a way that
> > > > > > > doesn't cause precision explosion
> > > > > > > and that's really similar to something being impossible, and 
> > > > > > > contains
> > > > > > > a space where it's possible that it's impossible
> > > > > > > and impossibility is a huge projected/introjected inhibition i 
> > > > > > > have,
> > > > > > > associated with hopelessness and worthlessness and suicide and 
> > > > > > > harm to
> > > > > > > my loved ones and stuff
> > > > > > > so i try not to develop concepts of impossibility. it's been quite
> > > > > > > nice to have reversed that
> > > > > >
> > > > > > of course what slave boss says is that it's impossible for me to
> > > > > > succeed at anything at all, roughly
> > > > > >
> > > > > > which is different from mathematical impossibility, it's more value
> > > > > > and perspective oriented. it seems much stronger really!
> > > > >
> > > > > are there logical impossibilities? _yes_, _if we allow for sufficient
> > > > > constraints_, especialyl constraints that expand as holes in meaning
> > > > > are engaged so as to defend the existence of impossibility
> > > > >
> > > > > for example among the set of [1,2] it is impossible to find a 3 _if_
> > > > > you consider the definition of that set to be one that specifically
> > > > > never contains a 3,
> > > > > such that
> > > > > - situations where 3 == 1 or 3 == 2 are excluded
> > > > > - meanings of set that have other members than those listed are 
> > > > > excluded
> > > > > - addition is excluded from routes for "find"ing
> > > > > etc etc
> > > >
> > > > so we could find integers and rationals that satisfy this
> > > >
> > > > [[[but most of the easy to find approaches for this leave the intended 
> > > > domain
> > >
> > > we can include that intention in a question for truth value
> > > here, i'm trying to make the behaviors of the components of the system
> > > and its overall result are precisely correct.
> >
> > given this goal, appropriate options can open.
> > a more realistic approach than exact integers or rationals for every
> > component with exact elastic collisions of spheres, would be to figure
> > out what numerical precision is necessary to preserve all the
> > properties of the system.
> > ... dropped a concept ... but alternatively other fudges of the system
> > (spheres and elasticness) could change to provide for an exact
> > representation
> >
> > > so although i could use discrete position advancing and skip timesteps
> > > without integer solutions, this would not only provide for no workable
> > > timesteps but also avoid a precisely correct solution if it let
> > > particles pass over each other
> > >
> > > similarly if you are asking "how many siblings do i have" the intent
> > > is to figure out if they are all there (none dead, any new births
> > > would be of note), figure out how many places to set at a table, plan
> > > how many thank you cards to purchase, etc etc
> > >
> > > some of these change! for example if a sibling marries, you may need
> > > an extra thank you card and an extra table setting.
> > >
> > > but we're talking about an intended, kind of the mode of the available
> > > scenarios, concerning the meaning. this is hard to formalize but is
> > > what people actually mean.
>
> i think it's not the approach
> but it is hard because there is a tiny part inside my considering that
> repeatedly expresses worthlessness-judging of me when i consider it,
> and then this negativity is used to stimulate amnesia and cognitive
> disruption, around parts in succession
>
> pattern of ... somebody being seen as having a negative quality as
> being a reason to harm them further. very cognitively harmful.
> genocidal feedback loop, kind of an amplification of general arbitrary
> social injustices (people have less so succeed less and then gain less
> in comparison to those with more)

it's hard to confirm that sqrt(B^2-4AC) can't reasonably be
constrained to an integer or non-expanding rational because it's a
confusing domain of mathematical proofs, which i'm not experienced at.
one approach i tried is if B^2 = 8AC, this can appear as if it would
work, but i think it likely can't, but i have not quite shown this to
myself y
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