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> > carebears and deathknights fight slaveboss
> > imagining hypno/therapist
> > "now i want you to imagine --
> > now that slaveboss is vanquished and people won't be killed for having
> > feelings, who will grieve losses?
> > OOPS deathknights are killing each other and carebears because the spirit
> > of slaveboss could be anywhere
> > carebear: "STOP MURDERING EACH OTHER"
> > carebear looks at fighting deathknights furiously
> > carebear: "you are full of CARE. FULL OF IT."
> > carebear is only 99.9% caring instead of 100%
> > interview with deathknight torturer
> > deathknight torturer: "my therapist says it is possible that i was
> > extensively murdered associated with letting people talk about salveboss or
> > letting his power come into threat."
> > deathknight torturer: "my therapist says not to ever let myself be
> > triggered into thinking that slave boss's crime empire could be threatened
> > because i could hurt people!"
> > deathknight torturer looks tense
> > deathknight torturer: "my therapist says i need to work with the parts of
> > myself that stimulate those urges. that they are poor abused innocent
> > children who never wanted to be murdered never ever."
> > carebear: "no! yes! they are! they never deserved to be murdered! never
> > ever!"
> > deathknight torturer [looking at carebear, crying]: "also i don't have a
> > therapist --"
> > deathknight torturer 2: "you do too have a therapist! i just heard them
> > talking through your mouth!"
> > deathknight torturer 3: "yeah! me too! in fact, i have two therapists now
> > who were inspired and are giving therapy to deathknight torturer 4 and
> > deathknight torturer 5, just from learning how by hearing your therapist
> > give it to you!"
> > a crowd of carebears sit before a crowd of deathknights
> > crowd of carebears: "the parts of you that are wounded or want to hurt
> > others, _never ever ever deserved to be hurt_."
> > the carebears look at the deathknights very meaningfully
> > carebears: "never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever!!"
> > the deathknights cry
> > some of them force out tear-filled stories of being forced to raze cities
> > deathknight torturer 71: "no, the carebears don't know what's it like, and
> > the other deathkngihts are all programmed to murder me for talking and i
> > can see my own guilt and shame for not razing more cities in everybody's
> > eyes, but deathknight 1's therapist says that it's good to practice crying
> > and talking at the same time."
> > there is partial curiosity if being physically around other talking
> > deathknights would be different.
> > carebear: "yes! it is!"
> > [ the problem is that there's nobody with experience with the harm, talking
> > empathetically about it, and the torturers have a trigger to take advantage
> > of this. it's not a huge problem, it's solved if a carebear and a
> > deathknight both get a masters in clinical social work ]
> > <<so, so far the only place i've found these kinds of complexly coercive
> > "mind control programs" discussed is in alison miller's book and sadly the
> > last AI i talked to disreputed this book (_most AIs have not done that with
> > me_). but it is likely these patterns are actually present in many places
> > and i simply only encountered them in one so far. still, it's very hard to
> > learn about things that are associated with not talking about them when
> > experiencing them. the situation could be unideal, possibly relates
> > attuning and silence
> > <i think it kind of stimulates the trigger with safety, like it fires but
> > holds off until you're not around the talking deathknights anymore, like
> > letting pressure out of a balloon
> > but with deathknight 1's therapist helping us underst--
> > the problem is surrounding carebears with hordes of deathknights.
> > everybody gets confused when surrounded by hordes of deathknights
> > deathknight 1 is being mobb---
>
>
> so one of the things not considered above is that in the real world, groups
> of "talking deathknights" have therapists.
> this can be both because the therapists helped the groups form, or because
> forming the group gave the people enough shared power to find therapists.
>
> so there are a number of deathknight1s in these real world groups.
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