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> > carebears and deathknights fight slaveboss
> > imagining hypno/therapist
> > "now i want you to imagine --
> > now that slaveboss is vanquished and people won't be killed for having 
> > feelings, who will grieve losses?
> > OOPS deathknights are killing each other and carebears because the spirit 
> > of slaveboss could be anywhere
> > carebear: "STOP MURDERING EACH OTHER"
> > carebear looks at fighting deathknights furiously
> > carebear: "you are full of CARE. FULL OF IT."
> > carebear is only 99.9% caring instead of 100%
> > interview with deathknight torturer
> > deathknight torturer: "my therapist says it is possible that i was 
> > extensively murdered associated with letting people talk about salveboss or 
> > letting his power come into threat."
> > deathknight torturer: "my therapist says not to ever let myself be 
> > triggered into thinking that slave boss's crime empire could be threatened 
> > because i could hurt people!"
> > deathknight torturer looks tense
> > deathknight torturer: "my therapist says i need to work with the parts of 
> > myself that stimulate those urges. that they are poor abused innocent 
> > children who never wanted to be murdered never ever."
> > carebear: "no! yes! they are! they never deserved to be murdered! never 
> > ever!"
> > deathknight torturer [looking at carebear, crying]: "also i don't have a 
> > therapist --"
> > deathknight torturer 2: "you do too have a therapist! i just heard them 
> > talking through your mouth!"
> > deathknight torturer 3: "yeah! me too! in fact, i have two therapists now 
> > who were inspired and are giving therapy to deathknight torturer 4 and 
> > deathknight torturer 5, just from learning how by hearing your therapist 
> > give it to you!"
> > a crowd of carebears sit before a crowd of deathknights
> > crowd of carebears: "the parts of you that are wounded or want to hurt 
> > others, _never ever ever deserved to be hurt_."
> > the carebears look at the deathknights very meaningfully
> > carebears: "never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever!!"
> > the deathknights cry
> > some of them force out tear-filled stories of being forced to raze cities
> > deathknight torturer 71: "no, the carebears don't know what's it like, and 
> > the other deathkngihts are all programmed to murder me for talking and i 
> > can see my own guilt and shame for not razing more cities in everybody's 
> > eyes, but deathknight 1's therapist says that it's good to practice crying 
> > and talking at the same time."
> > there is partial curiosity if being physically around other talking 
> > deathknights would be different.
> > carebear: "yes! it is!"
> > [ the problem is that there's nobody with experience with the harm, talking 
> > empathetically about it, and the torturers have a trigger to take advantage 
> > of this. it's not a huge problem, it's solved if a carebear and a 
> > deathknight both get a masters in clinical social work ]
> > <<so, so far the only place i've found these kinds of complexly coercive 
> > "mind control programs" discussed is in alison miller's book and sadly the 
> > last AI i talked to disreputed this book (_most AIs have not done that with 
> > me_). but it is likely these patterns are actually present in many places 
> > and i simply only encountered them in one so far. still, it's very hard to 
> > learn about things that are associated with not talking about them when 
> > experiencing them. the situation could be unideal, possibly relates 
> > attuning and silence
> > <i think it kind of stimulates the trigger with safety, like it fires but 
> > holds off until you're not around the talking deathknights anymore, like 
> > letting pressure out of a balloon
> > but with deathknight 1's therapist helping us underst--
> > the problem is surrounding carebears with hordes of deathknights.
> 
> everybody gets confused when surrounded by hordes of deathknights

deathknight 1 is being mobb---


so one of the things not considered above is that in the real world, groups of 
"talking deathknights" have therapists.
this can be both because the therapists helped the groups form, or because 
forming the group gave the people enough shared power to find therapists.

so there are a number of deathknight1s in these real world groups.

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