Greetings, Warren Young! >> I do not think they have really considered the integration issues that Cygwin >> has mostly solved.
> Since when has Microsoft ever been immune from NIH syndrome? >> small things like cygpath > A cygpath like facility is neither useful nor needed in UfW. The programs > run in their own Ubuntu world, and can’t talk to native Windows .exes > directly. The only access to Windows paths is through /mnt/c and such. > Within the UfW world, there are only POSIX paths. Which means, I can't call diff between files on my file manager's two panels? >> Remember, they have tried basically the same thing at least twice before: the >> "POSIX Subsystem" of WinNT > Yes, and this is another such subsystem, with the same powers and limitations. > The big difference this time is that it isn’t a gimped bare-bones POSIX > subsystem, it’s a gimped Ubuntu subsystem. Ubuntu with severe limitations > is still highly useful; witness Raspian. Raspian is an operating system. This… this, I don't know how to call it, but it's a complete joke. > A concrete example: All those soul-patch web developers choose to carry Mac > laptops not just because they’re the hipster choice, but because Node runs > much better under OS X than Windows. That proposition wholly changes in > this UfW world: run node.js in the Ubuntu box and connect to it over the > OS’s shared network stack from the Windows GUI browser of your choice. At the same time, you could run any given VM and get much better options and choices. > Microsoft must be getting mighty sick of seeing rows and rows of Apple > logos on laptops in the audiences at the Build conference every year. UfW > is one way they’re trying to change that. >> I'll give it a year or two to settle > I expect it to be quite usable in a matter of months. Microsoft can move > awfully fast once the fires get lit. I wouldn't be so hasty. If there's no interfacing between subsystems, it is as useful as running a VM. Read: useless crap, when it is going to usability. >> I just hope it does not interfere too much with my Cygwin setup > UfW will be completely independent of Cygwin. > More’s the pity, because it means you’ll be incentivized to choose one or > the other, likely to Cygwin’s net detriment. Since it will be independent of Windows as well as Cygwin, the choice is a nobrainer. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Thursday, April 14, 2016 21:54:53 Sorry for my terrible english...
