On 2025-09-03 15:18, Mark Wielaard wrote:
Hi Brian,
It has been at least a decade since I used Cygwin under Windows and
then I had someone else set it up for me. So apologies if my answers
don't make any sense.
On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 04:52:39PM -0600, Brian Inglis via Overseers wrote:
On 2025-07-03 09:43, Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin-apps wrote:
On Jul 2 18:01, Brian Inglis via Cygwin-apps wrote:
I have often thought why are we not leveraging Sourceware Infrastructure
Services and/or SFC Services more?
Does Sourceware Infrastructure support any BuildBots with Windows builders
for other (GNU?) projects, or could we get Windows containers/VMs added, and
Scallywag running under those, getting off the GitHub and Appveyor servers?
If that's possible, great. I don't have any preferences and I have no
idea if github provides stuff which can't be provided by sware infra.
Might be worth a try to ask.
We in the Cygwin project are wondering if you currently host any MS
Windows builders, for other projects which support builds or
execution on MS Windows hosts, or could do so, or if there are any
blockers which would prevent such hosting?
I think the closest currently is the cross build for gcc mingw:
https://sourceware.org/cgit/builder/tree/builder/master.cfg#n4058
https://sourceware.org/cgit/builder/tree/builder/containers/Containerfile-fedora-mingw
I assume we could setup such a cross build to produce cygwin binaries.
But we never managed to actually run the testsuite (under wine), so it current
is just a build service, not really CI.
From comments on the Cygwin lists, Redhatters make Cygwin builds on Fedora, but
I don't know if they can use Wine for testing, although from other comments,
Cygwin runs under Wine, and there appears to be cooperation with Mingw64, Msys2,
Wine, and ReactOS.
We previously ran Cygwin CI under Appveyor, and that is still
supported, for those who prefer not to have Github accounts.
Most developers and maintainers now use Cygwin CI under Github, and
that has also been integrated with deployment, and distribution
through the mirrors.
Many developers and maintainers now use that, when clean builds can
be achieved with upstream tests.
Do those services provide CI under Windows? Sourceware currently does
provide any Microsoft Windows setups. We might be able to setup Wine
(if cygwin python buildbot runs under wine). But I am not sure that
provides a good enough environment?
Current CI run Cygwin build-requires util/lib/-dev/-devel package installs using
Cygwin Setup under MS Windows, run the cygport builds, installs, and packaging
under Cygwin bash, as well as the make check/test processes.
Python is used for the Linux (Fedora?) server hosted package management and
distribution to the mirrors.
When CI tests fail, we still fallback on SFTP uploads, from local
builds where tests may pass, to the Cygwin archives and main mirror
for distribution.
So we are not totally reliant on any external CI, but would prefer
to be more so; also if the infrastructure could be based on more
free and open software; with providers more involved in those
spaces, as we all are.
We are happy to help. But we (I at least) don't really know what is
needed or how to provide it.
Hopefully others with background can chime in to fill my lack of knowledge.
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Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add
mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retrancher but when there is no more to cut
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