Hi, I usually lurk, but today thought I'd post. The issuance of the Stambler patents was discussed some time ago on the cryptography mailing list, brought up by Robert H. I think last May/June. At the time, there was not much comment on them, aside from the obvious fact that their lawyers were sending out blackmail threats. Has anyone been able to formulate any positions on their viability or done any work on this ? I am sure someone out there has... point me in the right direction, or let's talk about it. If this was discussed before, send me to the archives (I dont read everything I get). -pat -- Pat Richard - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Public Key Available via LDAP http://www.xcert.com