http://partners.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/09/biztech/technology/20mirapaul.html ...with Esther Dyson, Orrin Hatch, yer average Napster user, a developer of Gnutella, the head of the RIAA, etc... Note Kan's comment on the persistence of watermarks, or the inability to achieve thereof, and Jim Griffin's "celestial jukebox" idea... Cheers, RAH -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'