FWIW, I like googlegroups, because I can get it via email only, and it strips out the _pretty_ *formatting*.
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:51 PM, <simon_jake...@dell.com> wrote: > On the forum front: Mike is correct, there is a large populous preferring > forums over mailing lists. That's why there's products that actually allow > both methods of interaction. Send an new topic email to the list and it > becomes a new thread on the forum, reply via the forum and it gets send back > to the list. Jive actually does this very well. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: crowbar-bounces On Behalf Of Adam Spiers > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:45 AM > To: crowbar > Subject: Re: [Crowbar] New Server for Crowbar Lists > > Pittaro, Michael (michael_pitt...@dell.com) wrote: >> On 10/10/2013 12:09 PM, Judd Maltin wrote: >> > It's come to light that the current manager of the mailing list >> > software is no longer available, and that the process of changing >> > the list to suit our needs (and any needs that may arise) would take >> > months of work. >> > >> I think we can manage that, I'm not concerned about logistics here. >> >> > I'd like to open the discussion regarding moving the list's >> > server/service to a vendor more focussed on serving public-facing >> > needs. >> > >> > Suggestions? >> > >> > The ones that roll of my mind are: >> > >> > * google groups >> > * yahoo groups >> > * my colo running mailman (or other) >> > * any of the above with the @opencrowbar.org domain >> > >> > -judd >> > >> >> In my experience, users often prefer a forum style interface over a >> mailing list. If we investigate alternatives, I think we should >> consider a forum as an option. >> >> Anyone else think forum might be preferable ? > > <rant mode='opinionated'> > > Sorry, but I can't stand forums. I don't think I've ever witnessed a forum > which managed the same signal:noise ratio as a decent mailing list. IMHO > their fundamental flaws include: > > - slow and unbelievably bloated web UIs > - incompatibility with existing email clients and workflows > (including preferred editors) > - yet another place to have to check for messages > - propensity for rich text which discourages proper inline quoting > - default views are typically linear, encouraging extremely long > threads with no easy to follow structure > > and I don't see a single advantage they offer over mailing lists which offset > these downsides. > > It's pretty easy to demonstrate the kind of horror I'm referring to by > picking the first random thread I can find via a few clicks on > xdadevelopers: > > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2382051 > > 300 posts, supposedly on a single topic, stretched over 30 pages of pure > bloat. I find it utterly mystifying how anyone can tolerate this kind of > madness - if anyone can explain this and satisfy my curiosity I'd be > genuinely grateful... > > Admittedly it's unlikely Crowbar threads would ever grow this big. > But I still can't see a single good reason for switching from a mailing list. > Again, if I'm missing something crucial, I'd love to hear it. > > </rant> > > _______________________________________________ > Crowbar mailing list > Crowbar@dell.com > https://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/crowbar > For more information: http://crowbar.github.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Crowbar mailing list > Crowbar@dell.com > https://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/crowbar > For more information: http://crowbar.github.com/ -- Judd Maltin T: 917-882-1270 F: 501-694-7809 what could possibly go wrong? _______________________________________________ Crowbar mailing list Crowbar@dell.com https://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/crowbar For more information: http://crowbar.github.com/
