I agree.  I'm struggling to understand why things are being redesigned at this 
stage.

Regarding the design changes to the network barclamp, it sounds like conduits 
will still exist and that they will just be represented as roles in the model 
instead of being explicitly represented as Conduits/ConduitRules/etc.  It's 
unclear to me that this change will make things simpler, and it appears that it 
will only serve to obfuscate conduits (which are not a simple concept to begin 
with) further.


Thanks,

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: crowbar-bounces On Behalf Of Adam Spiers
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 6:38 AM
To: crowbar
Subject: Re: [Crowbar] CB2 Core Design update

Adam Spiers (aspi...@suse.com) wrote:
> Rob Hirschfeld (rob_hirschf...@dell.com) wrote:
> > Victor and I were kicking around the DB models a little more.  The result 
> > was a further refinement/simplification for discussion.
> > 
> > 
> > 1)      Deployment is the top level thing.  Basically, all the roles hang 
> > off the deployment (through the snapshot pointer).  When a role has a 
> > prerequisite, that prerequisite is always resolved from within the 
> > deployment.  The discussion image shows the role prereq chain in blue.
> 
> Just checking you saw my feedback yesterday?  I'm not yet convinced 
> how well this will work, but I'm very willing to be persuaded via 
> answers to my questions :)

Just as an aside, I'm sort of puzzled that we're going through another 
fundamental iteration of redesign of 2.0 at this point.  Have the timescales 
for release shifted sufficiently far into the future to make this feasible?  I 
haven't been too involved in those discussions so maybe I missed something, but 
I thought the goal was to aim for a
2.0 release relatively soon after Pebbles?

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