On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 18:26:13 GMT, Alexey Semenyuk <asemen...@openjdk.org> wrote:

> > The question is how useful do users see the need to have jdk.jlink part 
> > when they don't use the --runtime-image option and jpackage
> 
> If they don't use `--runtime-image` option, and jdk.jlink module is not 
> available there is no way to get a runtime for app packaging. Users will be 
> upset

We still seem to be on different pages :)

Let's try again:
- `jlink` is available. And it works generating a `java.se` runtime image. The 
gist of JEP 493 is that most use-cases will still work. But you don't need 
`jmods` anymore.
- Using `jlink`, but including `jdk.jlink` in the output image doesn't work. 
The restriction of JEP 493 applies.
- Feel free to try this yourself on a standard JDK 24 build and using these 
steps:


$ ./jdk-24+26/bin/jlink --generate-linkable-runtime --module-path 
./jdk-24+26/jmods --add-modules ALL-MODULE-PATH --output 
./build/test-linkable-jdk
WARNING: Using incubator modules: jdk.incubator.vector
$ ./build/test-linkable-jdk/bin/jlink --help | tail -n2
Capabilities:
      Linking from run-time image enabled
$ ./build/test-linkable-jdk/bin/java --list-modules | grep jdk.jlink
jdk.jlink@24-ea


The generated JDK in `./build/test-linkable-jdk` will have `jlink`, but no 
`jmods` (includes all JDK modules, nevertheless). You can create custom 
runtimes from it, just not include `jdk.jlink` in the output image that you 
generate.

HTH clarify things.

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PR Comment: https://git.openjdk.org/jdk/pull/22644#issuecomment-2529076860

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