And for A.andThen(B), A.flags & B.flags should work, the stream is sorted if 
both gatherers keep it sorted.
That is unfortunately not the case. That would presume that you can implement 
the composition such that it can preserve all the common flags. Some flags 
could be "dominant" and some "recessive" to use genetics nomenclature.

I suppose that if those flags already exist, it's because they have a purpose 
and i do not understand how it can make the other operations slower.

Extra invocations, extra storage, and extra composition overhead is not free. 
Since Stream is one-shot you need to include the construction cost with the 
execution cost. For something like an empty Stream construction cost scan be 
90+% of the total costs.

Cheers,
√


Viktor Klang
Software Architect, Java Platform Group
Oracle

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I suspect that it is a rather slippery slope, once KEEP-flags are added, then 
others will want to be able to have INJECT-flags, and then people might have 
different opinions w.r.t. the default should be to clear all flags etc.

And that's even before one looks at the composition-part of it, what are the 
flags for A.andThen(B)? (then extrapolate to N compositions and the available 
set of flags always approaches 0)

I spent quite a bit of time on this and in the end tracking all this info, and 
making sure that the flags of implementations correspond to the actual 
behavior, just ended up costing performance for most streams and introduced an 
extra dimension to creation and maintenance which I had a hard time justifying.

It can be a slippery slope if we were designing from the ground up but the 
stream implementation already exists and SORTED, DISTINCT and SIZED are the 
flags that are already tracked by the current implementation.

Currently only SHORT_CIRCUIT is set (if not greedy),
see 
https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/master/src/java.base/share/classes/java/util/stream/GathererOp.java#L209<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/master/src/java.base/share/classes/java/util/stream/GathererOp.java*L209__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!PhMxqlDzLWPRuwYc7ECRKNPVs0BtnoE-RdT-Jdkng7S-iFuERAHYcWvJ-OMKGLrkPdSrUl3xj1R9ypyeqeWI$>

And for A.andThen(B), A.flags & B.flags should work, the stream is sorted if 
both gatherers keep it sorted.


Making specific, rare, combinations of operations faster at the expense of 
making 99% of all others slower is a hard pill for most to swallow.

I suppose that if those flags already exist, it's because they have a purpose 
and i do not understand how it can make the other operations slower.



Cheers,
√

regards,
Rémi



Viktor Klang
Software Architect, Java Platform Group
Oracle
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From: "Viktor Klang" <viktor.kl...@oracle.com>
To: "Remi Forax" <fo...@univ-mlv.fr>, "core-libs-dev" 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 8:48:07 PM
Subject: Re: Gatherer: spliterator characteristics are not propagated
Hi Rémi,

You can find some of my benches here: 
https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/tree/master/test/micro/org/openjdk/bench/java/util/stream/ops/ref<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/tree/master/test/micro/org/openjdk/bench/java/util/stream/ops/ref__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!JJy6F9NoL6wKZQK5158up_fTRvH8X7F6JK8T7Euuf8vzbSQbr23eWa9S_yb61ksONVrLrdesCF_au5zyje2l$>

Initially I had Characteristics such as ORDERED etc on Gatherer but it just 
didn't end up worth it when looking at the bench results over a wide array of 
stream sizes and number of operations.

I think there are 3 gatherer characteristics that make sense: KEEP_SORTED, 
KEEP_DISTINCT and KEEP_SIZED,
all of them say that if the stream was sorted/distinct/sized then the stream 
returned by a call to gather() is still sorted (with the same comparator), 
distinct or sized.

As examples, map() is KEEP_SIZED, filter() is KEEP_SORTED | KEEP_DISTINCT and 
windowFixed is KEEP_DISTINCT.

[CC Paul, so he can correct me if i'm saying something stupid]

Now for the benchmarks, it depends what you want to measure, benchmarking 
streams is tricky. This is what i know about benchmarking streams.
First, the JIT has two ways to profile types at runtime,
Either a method takes a function as parameter
  void map(Function function) {
    function.apply(...)
  }
and when map is called with a subtype of Function, the JIT will propagate the 
exact type when map is inlined,
Or a method use a field
  class Op {
    Function function;

    void map() {
       function.apply(...)
    }
  }
in that case, the VM records the profile of function.apply() and if there are 
more than two different profiles, the VM declare profile poluttion and do not 
try to optimize.

The Stream implementation tries very hard to use only parameters instead of 
fields, that's why it does not use classical Iterator that are pull iterator (a 
filter iterator requires a field) but a Spliterator which is a push iterator, 
the element is sent as parameter of the consumer.That's also why collect does 
not use the builder pattern (that accumulate values in fields) but a Collector 
that publish the functions to be called as parameter.

Obvisously, this is more complex than that, a Collector stores the functions in 
fields so it should not work well but the implementation uses a record that 
plays well with escape analysis. Escape analysis see the fields of an instance 
as parameters so the functions of a Collector are correctly propagated (if the 
escape analysis works). And lambdas are using invokedynamic, and the VM tries 
really hard to inline invokedynamic, so lambdas (that captures value or not) 
are routinely fully inlined with the intermediate operation of a stream.

In your tests, i've not seen comparaisons between an existing method like map() 
or filter() followed by a sorted()/distinct()/count()/toList(), i.e. operations 
where the characteristics KEEP_* have an impact and their equivalent using a 
Gatherer.



Cheers,
√

regards,
Rémi



Viktor Klang
Software Architect, Java Platform Group
Oracle
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Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2024 16:48
To: core-libs-dev <core-libs-...@openjdk.java.net>
Subject: Gatherer: spliterator characteristics are not propagated

While doing some benchmarking of the Gatherer API, i've found that the 
characteristics of the spliterator was not propagated by the method 
Stream.gather() making the stream slower than it should.

As an example, there is no way when reimplementing map() using a Gatherer to 
say that this intermediate operation keep the size, which is important if the 
terminal operation is toList() because if the size is known, toList() will 
presize the List and avoid the creation of an intermediary ArrayList.

See 
https://github.com/forax/we_are_all_to_gather/blob/master/src/main/java/com/gihtub/forax/wearealltogather/bench/MapGathererBenchmark.java<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/forax/we_are_all_to_gather/blob/master/src/main/java/com/gihtub/forax/wearealltogather/bench/MapGathererBenchmark.java__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!JJy6F9NoL6wKZQK5158up_fTRvH8X7F6JK8T7Euuf8vzbSQbr23eWa9S_yb61ksONVrLrdesCF_auzwTY8aB$>

I think that adding a way to propagate the spliterator characteristics through 
a Gatherer would greatly improve the performance of commons streams (at least 
all the ones that end with a call to toList).

I have some idea of how to do that, but I prefer first to hear if i've overlook 
something and if improving the performance is something worth changing the API.

regards,
Rémi


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