On 01/07/2012 03:07 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
Jeff, it does not matter what ten humans does with the games, because they are insignificant compared to bulk mass of games that gobots are playing. therefore CS's it has no relevance for the rating system.
Maybe, but you may be underestimating how much damage a few dedicated players can do. This one player accounted for about 8% of the games against CrazyStone since November, and because he lost so many games against solid bots, he affects the rank even more than a regular player.
Also 6 months is very very short time, and when old games are starting to expire, KGS rating will follow. See e.g. CS rating graph for reference.
I think waiting months for old games to expire when you make an improvement is not so good. If I was running bots on KGS I'd have 7 rotating accounts, and only play an account for a month so that it wouldn't get heavy.
KGS rating system works brilliantly and it is almost impossible to exploit,
It's a lot easier than you think, and I've reported a few people where something is clearly being abused, whether it is sandbagging or cheating to get a higher rank.
6d for MC-gobot seems a bit optimistic, I would bet €5 that it won't happen in 2012. 6d's are ridiculously strong. I calculated that in January, out of 56 games against 5d's CS won 48%. This is indeed impressive, although there is long way to beat 6d's in even game.
Zen19d is already winning 64% out of 59 games that are even and 56% out of 27 against higher rank since November: http://kgs.gosquares.net/index.rhtml.en?id=Zen19d&id2=&r=1&ty=2011&tm=11 I would be very surprised if it isn't 6d in 2012. _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
