We are talking about initialization of the Zobrist table. That will happen once per execution of the program; or even just once ever, if he just generates the table and hard-codes it into the program --which is what I do.
Álvaro. On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Igor Polyakov <weiqiprogramm...@gmail.com> wrote: > If you're only getting 1000 table generations a second, you should look > into your algorithm. You should get at least 100,000 table generations a > second! > > > On 2015-10-16 7:21, Álvaro Begué wrote: > > That sounds kind of obsessive. I think the probability of having a 0 or > repeated numbers in the table is about 3.18*10^-15 (someone else please > check my math). To generate some intuition for how small this number is, if > you did this a thousand times per second, the expected time to finding a > problematic table is about 10,000 years. > > Álvaro. > > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Gonçalo Mendes Ferreira < <go...@sapo.pt> > go...@sapo.pt> wrote: > >> I'm currently using random numbers ensuring they are not 0 or repeated in >> the table, for obvious reasons. I suspect the next step for those >> interested would be ensuring each bit has a similar ratio of occurrences, >> or bruteforcing it. >> >> On 16/10/2015 14:51, Álvaro Begué wrote: >> >>> Btw does anyone have a good initialization vector for the Zobrist table? >>>> >>> The obvious thing to try is random numbers. Another idea is turning your >>> Zobrist key into CRC64, which I think is what you get if you generate >>> your >>> numbers like this: >>> >>> #include <cstdio> >>> >>> int main() { >>> unsigned long long const P = 0x42F0E1EBA9EA3693ull; >>> unsigned long long h = P; >>> for (int i = 0; i < 1000; ++i) { // Or as many as you need >>> std::printf("%016llx\n", h); >>> h = (h & 0x8000000000000000ull) ? (h << 1) ^ P : (h << 1); >>> } >>> } >>> >>> >>> Álvaro. >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> Computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing > listComputer-go@computer-go.orghttp://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >
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