On one processor the current experimental version 12 has a 4 kyu kgs rating.
The new algorithms scale well to multiple processor cores, and 8 processor
PCs with the new Intel 8 core chip will be available late this year.

I haven't tried handicap games, but the new version beats many faces 11 over
90% of even games.  I was planning to have it ready for the go congress, but
it won't be.  I might bring some CDs I make myself...

Right now you can only play them on KGS.  

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:computer-go-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Tayek
> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:44 PM
> To: computer-go
> Subject: RE: [computer-go] What Do You Need Most?
> 
> At 07:53 PM 7/27/2008, you wrote:
> >The traditional programs are around 10 kyu, but the new ones are 2 to
> 4 kyu,
> >at least on KGS.  I've seen some handicap games against dan players
> that are
> >consistent with these ratings.
> 
> wow. that's impressive. can one buy these or just play the on kgs?
> 
> >It wouldn't surprise me to see 1 dan from an MC program before 2010,
> running
> >on an 8 processor mainstream system.
> >
> >David
> 
> 1-dan in two years? i must give your opinion a lot a weight, but i
> remain skeptical.
> 
> how strong will the next version of manyfaces be? (and when can i buy
> it).
> 
> 
> 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:computer-go-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Tayek
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 7:09 PM
> > > To: computer-go
> > > Subject: Re: [computer-go] What Do You Need Most?
> > >
> > > At 06:23 PM 7/27/2008, you wrote:
> > > >I have a strong interest in seeing a 19x19 computer go program
> that is
> > > >at least 3-dan by 2010.
> > >
> > > we all do. but as the programs are only about 10-kyu these days, we
> > > will be lucky to get to the small kyu ratings by 2010 and then you
> > > will hit a hard wall.
> > >
> > > i think michael is correct when he mentions incentive. there are
> not
> > > to many $'s out there to go after.
> > >
> > > some of us try to get the programs into tournaments (like
> > > http://www.cotsengotournament.com/), but the aga refuses to allow
> the
> > > games for credit. ...
> 
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