Andy wrote: > See below I created a table that shows the transformation from KGS > ratings to the Elo that CGOS uses. I set 6k=1800 because I believe > that is what GNU 3.7.10 is under both systems. Does anyone have more > data points for bots that play on both systems? > > Also is there an "all times" list for 19x19? CS-9-17-2CPU is on top > at 2297, but I don't think that's the strongest CrazyStone. I think > other strong 19x19 bots are not on the current list either. I have no access to the 19x19 server, but the all time list is set of scripts based on having access to the cgos database, so it could be done pretty easily with 19x19. I could make an all time list if Olivier could ftp the current database state to my ftp server.
Your table is very "believable" to me but I'm not expert on matching ELO to kyu/dan but the ELO spread seems pretty realistic. It also implies that even with the wonderful scalability of UCT we won't be seeing really strong programs for a very long time unless the software improves. If Moores law continues to hold, we might see some pretty powerful programs in several years. - Don > > To create the table I calculated the probability for a player of rank > X to upset a player of rank X+1. Then I converted this to the > equivalent number of Elo points for the same upset rate. Finally I > made a running total, setting 6k to 1800. The transform could be done > using calculus I suppose but it's been a long time since I did that! :) > > > ELO set > rank k 1 rank 6k=1800 > 10k 0.80 139 1,244 > 9k 0.80 139 1,383 > 8k 0.80 139 1,522 > 7k 0.80 139 1,661 > 6k 0.80 139 1,800 > 5k 0.80 139 1,939 > 4k 0.88 153 2,078 > 3k 0.97 168 2,231 > 2k 1.05 182 2,399 > 1k 1.13 197 2,582 > 1d 1.22 211 2,779 > 2d 1.30 226 2,990 > 3d 1.30 226 3,216 > 4d 1.30 226 3,442 > 5d 1.30 226 3,667 > 6d 1.30 226 3,893 > 7d 1.30 226 4,119 > 8d 1.30 226 4,345 > 9d 1.30 226 4,571 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
