In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Heikki Levanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 04:12:26PM -0500, Don Dailey wrote:
There is no question that there are positions where suicide or eye
filling are correct.

I know suicide can be used as a ko-threat, but are there *any* other
positions where it would be a correct move?

If not, then it makes sense to forbid that in a random playout, since it is
"just" a forcing move, and the (equally) random opponent is quite unlikely to
answer the right way anyway. So the suicide move may look like a better move
than it really is.


I can not think of any situation where filling a one-point eye would be a
correct move (provided that it is a "real" eye and not a "false" one).


Can anyone come with concrete examples?

There's a bunch of them at
http://www.goban.demon.co.uk/go/bestiary/rule_challenge.html

None is at all likely in a real game. There's also the more plausible suicide of three stones as a "minus one point in sente" ko threat.

Nick
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