The new level of participation is terrific.  It's great to see Goliath, the 
strongest program for many years.  I love the new 15 minute time limits.  Thank 
you everyone.

I'd like to remind people to follow the link to Sensei's computer go page and 
add a brief description of your program when you have time.

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:computer-go-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Dailey
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:03 AM
> To: computer-go
> Subject: Re: [computer-go] How to get more participation in 19x19 CGOS?
> 
> I also put up "Odie" on the 19x19 server so that we would have some
> weaker players.    Odie should be quite weak and I can also put up even
> weaker versions.
> 
> - Don
> 
> 
> 
> 
> David Fotland wrote:
> >
> > I tested the three versions only against each other, and tuned them
> by
> > removing go knowledge.  I didn�t spend much time on it so I didn�t
> > have time to tune against gnugo.  I thought that tuning on the server
> > would be better.  Since programs do better against themselves, the
> > actual strength difference is probably less than 5 stones.
> >
> >
> >
> > Level 0 should be really stupid.  It can�t read ladders, and the move
> > generator only uses patterns that are 3x3.
> >
> >
> >
> > I tested with 100 games, and level 2 gives 5 stones to level 1 and
> > wins 45%.  Level 1 gives five stones to level 0 and wins 53%
> >
> >
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *terry
> mcintyre
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:39 AM
> > *To:* computer-go
> > *Subject:* Re: [computer-go] How to get more participation in 19x19
> CGOS?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks, David!
> >
> > I think you said that your three versions of Many Faces 12 are about
> 5
> > stones apart in strength?
> >
> > I'm guessing this means that version A can give B a 5 stone handicap,
> > and win 50% of the time,
> > while version B can give C a 5 stone handicap and win 50% of the
> games?
> >
> > Have you played the 3 versions against Gnugo? What handicaps seem
> > appropriate there?
> >
> > I think Don Dailey posted that there is a need for a GnuGo on the
> > 19x19 server? I can host if need be, have spare CPU here and full-
> time
> > connection.
> >
> >
> >
> > Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> >
> > �Wherever is found what is called a paternal government, there is
> > found state education. It has been discovered that the best way to
> > insure implicit obedience is to commence tyranny in the nursery.�
> >
> >
> >
> > Benjamin Disraeli, Speech in the House of Commons [June 15, 1874]
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: David Fotland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: computer-go <computer-go@computer-go.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2008 3:00:44 PM
> > Subject: RE: [computer-go] How to get more participation in 19x19
> CGOS?
> >
> > You can test your bot on the 19x19 cgos now, since I added 3 weak
> > players today.  They are so fast they don�t load my machine, so I�ll
> > leave them up.
> >
> >
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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