Le mardi 4 décembre 2007, Don Dailey a écrit : > The only issue is that I don't know if GnuGo is representative of 19x19 > to 9x9 go strength. I am interested in knowing how a human 19x19 > scales down to 9x9 play. It's well known that programs scale up poorly.
Ah yes, i forgot this :) My personnal rule is - on 13x13 divide handicap by 2 - on 9x9 divide by 3 It is a bit rough, but quite good. More subbtle attempts are summarized at: http://senseis.xmp.net/?HandicapForSmallerBoardSizes http://senseis.xmp.net/?AGAHandicaps and http://www.timhunt.me.uk/go/handicaps/ with and "interesting observation" in the end. Alain. > > However, this data should still be quite useful. > > - Don > > > Alain Baeckeroot wrote: > > Le mardi 4 décembre 2007, Don Dailey a écrit : > > > > > >> For 9x9 ELO works better. For 19x19 it's less clear cut. The > >> handicap system appears to be a good system at 19x19 and has the very > >> nice merit of allowing grossly mismatched players to compete. I > >> think the two systems can be married by adding a fixed offset per stone > >> handicap to your ELO. > >> > >> > > > > Stats from official european go federation, on 150 000 games nearly solves > > the problem of doing ELO vs handicap matching. > > http://gemma.ujf.cas.cz/~cieply/GO/statev.html > > > > Just need to find one anchor, lets says gnugo , rated 6k on kgs in > > 2007-11... > > > > Alain > > > > PS i posted this link some times on the list, but nobody seems to > > consider it is useful (except Sylvain Gelly ;-) > > I would be glad if someone could explain to me why this does not solve the > > problem. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > computer-go mailing list > > computer-go@computer-go.org > > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > > _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/