On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 14:46 +0100, Tom Cooper wrote: > Perhaps it would be possible to infer how the lines would look as > perfect play was approached from what the curves looked like > for a smaller board size.
I thought that too, but the studies on 5x5 and 7x7 break down very quickly. The problem is that the programs already play close to perfect on these board sizes. I can say that because on 7x7 using a fractional komi, either white wins most of the games or black, depending on how you set komi. - Don > At 13:06 09/04/2007, Don wrote: > > >On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 05:30 -0400, Weston Markham wrote: > > > On 4/8/07, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > These programs, in theory, will play perfect GO given > > > > enough time. > > > > > > ... and space. I doubt that your current programs would be capable of > > > storing a large enough game tree to actually converge to the > > > alpha-beta value. So in practice, it really would level out somewhere > > > below optimal play, unless you also increase the memory usage, right? > > > I think that it is still valid to present your chart as representing > > > the lower portions of curves that do not do this, because you would > > > presumably scale up the amount of memory used as well as the time, if > > > you could. > > > > > > Weston > > > >Yes, you would need more time and memory. But the point is that > >as long as you can provide time and memory you will get improvement > >until perfect play is reached. > > > >But if it's true that heavy is increasing faster, that will proabably > >stop being the case MUCH sooner. They will both likely approach > >perfect play on a very similar slope (like a jet coming in for a > >landing) which means the distance beetween the two plot lines must > >start getting closer much sooner. > > > >- Don > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >computer-go mailing list > >computer-go@computer-go.org > >http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > > > >-- > >This email has been verified as Virus free > >Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net > > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
