Ok, if no one complains I will phrase the vote to include +1's explicitly
cast in the discussion thread.
--Matt


On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

> Why repeat just tally new ones?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 21, 2013, at 6:58 PM, "Matt Foley" <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > 13/14 +1's.  I think that constitutes consensus.  Moving this to a VOTE
> > thread.  Please repeat your +1s :-)
> > Cheers,
> > --Matt
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Mahadev Konar <maha...@hortonworks.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> +1.
> >>
> >> thanks
> >> mahadev
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Karthik Kambatla <ka...@cloudera.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> +1 (non-binding)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Jitendra Pandey
> >>> <jiten...@hortonworks.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> +1
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Eli Collins <e...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> +1  thanks Matt.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>> This has been a side topic in several email threads recently.
> >>>> Currently
> >>>>> we
> >>>>>> have an ambiguity.  We have a tradition in the dev community that
> >> any
> >>>>>> committer can create a branch, and propose release candidates from
> >> it.
> >>>>> Yet
> >>>>>> the Hadoop bylaws say that releases have to be planned in advance,
> >> the
> >>>>> plan
> >>>>>> needs to be voted on, and presumably can be denied.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Apache policies (primarily here <
> >>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html>
> >>>>>> and here <http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html>, with
> >>>>>> non-normative commentary
> >>>>>> here<
> >>>>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#best-practice
> >>>>>> )
> >>>>>> are very clear on how Releases have to be approved, and our bylaws
> >> are
> >>>>>> consistent with those policies.  But Apache policies don't say
> >> anything
> >>>>>> I've found about Release Plans, nor about voting on Release Plans.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I propose the following change, to remove Release Plan votes, and
> >> give
> >>>> a
> >>>>>> simple definition of Release Manager role.  I'm opening discussion
> >> with
> >>>>>> this proposal, and will put it to a vote if we seem to be getting
> >>>>>> consensus.  Here's the changes I suggest in the
> >>>>>> Bylaws<http://hadoop.apache.org/bylaws.html>
> >>>>>> document:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ===
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1. In the "Decision Making" : "Actions" section of the Bylaws, the
> >>>>>> following text is removed:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ** Release Plan*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Defines the timetable and actions for a release. The plan also
> >>>> nominates
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>> Release Manager.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Lazy majority of active committers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2. In the "Roles and Responsibilities" section of the Bylaws, an
> >>>>> additional
> >>>>>> role is defined:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ** Release Manager*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A Release Manager (RM) is a committer who volunteers to produce a
> >>>> Release
> >>>>>> Candidate according to
> >>>>>> HowToRelease<https://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/HowToRelease>.
> >>>>>> The RM shall publish a Release Plan on the *common-dev@* list
> >> stating
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>> branch from which they intend to make a Release Candidate, at least
> >> one
> >>>>>> week before they do so. The RM is responsible for building consensus
> >>>>> around
> >>>>>> the content of the Release Candidate, in order to achieve a
> >> successful
> >>>>>> Product Release vote.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ===
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please share your views.
> >>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>> --Matt (long-time release manager)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> <http://hortonworks.com/download/>
> >>
>

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