[like] Heather Shimon reacted to your message: ________________________________ From: Code for Libraries <CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG> on behalf of Sarah Swanz <spsw...@umich.edu> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2024 3:51:17 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG <CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] data sets in multiple respositories
I manage our data repository. I don't have a problem with you depositing in both Zenodo and your institutional repo as long as you are not getting a 2d DOI. Get a DOI from one or the other and then add a cross-reference to the other. If the repos are following DataCite scheme, there's a field for Alternative Identifiers. Publishing in 2 repos is not the same as publishing the same article in two journals. A better analogy is having a book in more than one library. Sarah Swanz Digital Humanities Librarian & Data Curator Washington University in St Louis On Mar 11, 2024 at 9:09 AM -0500, Lena G. Bohman <0000012edd993013-dmarc-requ...@lists.clir.org>, wrote: > Dear Eric, > > As a data librarian, what I see most often is different parts of datasets > deposited in different repositories. For example, lets say you are doing a > study that combines some kind of genetic sequencing and MRI of the brain. The > genetic sequencing would go into a repository like Gene Expression Omnibus > (GEO) and the MRIs would go to a brain imaging repository. > > If you wanted to deposit your data in both an IR and a generalist repository > (like Zenodo), I would not say it is a faux pas, exactly, but it's probably > unnecessary. Reputable repositories should have some kind of succession > planning in place in the event that they have to close, and a formalized > retention plan. > > As for the link rot issue, repositories have implemented DOI services and > accession numbers to mitigate this issue. If you are writing a data > availability statement for a paper or otherwise need to indicate where the > dataset is, best practice would be to include the accession number or DOI, > rather than the direct link. > > Overall, I would not recommend duplicative depositing of data. However, I > would still recommend to my patrons making multiple copies of their data in > internal storage (rather than sharing multiple copies), if possible. Some of > the researchers I work with have such large datasets that this would not be > feasible. > > Hopefully this helps. > > Lena > > Lena Bohman > Senior Data Management and Research Impact Librarian > Long Island Jewish - Forest Hills Liaison > Donald and Barbara Zucker School of Medicine at Hofstra/Northwell > [cid:4306f569-fa25-4b46-b465-b80ecc4a88c6] > ________________________________ > From: Code for Libraries <CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG> on behalf of Eric Lease > Morgan <00000107b9c961ae-dmarc-requ...@lists.clir.org> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2024 9:02 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG <CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG> > Subject: [CODE4LIB] data sets in multiple respositories > > EXTERNAL MESSAGE > > To what degree is it unethical or unprofessional to deposit data sets in > multiple respositories? > > A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, the preservation of books and > journals was ensured when multiple libraries included books and journals in > their collections. This philosopy of preservation was well-articulated with > the advent of LOCKSS when they said, "Lot's of copies keep stuff safe." See: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fwww.lockss.org*2F&data=05*7C02*7Clena.g.bohman*40HOFSTRA.EDU*7Ca149b2388a8c4e200f6308dc41cba93e*7Ce32fc43d7c6246d9b49fcd53ba8d9424*7C0*7C0*7C638457590333563352*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=qpkM5V9zSLktDcSuZK5M97jQmFirU*2BxKY0g4Am5nEFE*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!Mak6IKo!NhTVFe_Cv9cApxeKNEs-88L-ctj4F_cWn_z8cDCKZA-m6Jksfnu9oLWy8DI8z9zL3AoooqZTSL4DRfAmdY7P950$ > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.lockss.org/__;!!Mak6IKo!NhTVFe_Cv9cApxeKNEs-88L-ctj4F_cWn_z8cDCKZA-m6Jksfnu9oLWy8DI8z9zL3AoooqZTSL4DRfAm7Vhn6nE$ > > > > Now-a-days, we relegate the preservation of the scholarly record -- whether > that be books, journals, or data sets -- to centralized networked services. > Hmmm. > > For decades I have been using the Internet to provide access to library > collections and services, and one of things this experience has taught me is, > links WILL break. Thus, if I deposit my data sets in multiple Internet > locations, then the probability of losing access to the data sets decreases. > Yet, like the publishing of articles in multiple journals is seen as > unethical, would the publishing of data sets in multiple locations be seen in > the same light? One problem with multiple deposits would be generation of > multiple DOI's, which begs the question, "Which DOI is the authoritative one?" > > Put more simply, it is okay for me to deposit my data sets in my university's > institutional repository as well as something like Zenodo? > > -- > Eric Morgan <emor...@nd.edu> > Navari Family Center for Digital Scholarship > University of Notre Dame > **** CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Hofstra University. Do > not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know > the content is safe. **** > <Outlook-vghxq5ev.png>
