Apologies. I have no desire to start an internecine war. I have been reading up 
on ARC for the past few hours. I also watched the WWDC video on ARC, and after 
having watched and read everything, I kept feeling as if I was rather 
comfortable with the old manual memory model.

I guess my real question is "Why did Apple decide to introduce ARC at all?". I 
am not convinced that the conventions are any easier than the previous model of 
manual retain counts.


Patrick

On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:11 PM, Fritz Anderson wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 11:41 PM, <livinginlosange...@mac.com> wrote:
> Would anyone agree [with] me that ARC introduces more rules and 
> considerations than previously existed with manual reference counting?
> 
> It's not clear which of the two messages, from the entire daily digest you 
> quoted, you are replying to.
> 
> If you are asking for help of some kind, you might tell us what you need help 
> with, and how the documentation from Apple and clang.llvm.org have let you 
> down.
> 
> If you have an observation to make, you should make it, rather than task 
> others to make theirs with no clue as to what you are driving at. What "rules 
> and considerations" are you talking about? It would help us, to know if 
> you've already pondered the thousands of words already published about the 
> rationale for introducing ARC, and the corner cases that remain; and, having 
> pondered them, what fresh rules and considerations you have discovered, or 
> how they might be more-clearly explained.
> 
> Because you're not just inviting us to another religious war about issues 
> that were resolved (well or badly) years ago, are you? Your phrasing is 
> awfully close to "Let's you and him fight."
> 
>     — F
> 

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