On Jul 24, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Bob Sabiston <fl...@media.mit.edu> wrote:

> OK I don't want to get in some flame war with people that are going to attack 
> me and say Apple is in the right.  I am just surprised it's taking so long 
> for one of the biggest companies in the world to get this site back up.  This 
> is not "soon" by any stretch of the word.

This is just a guess… :)

When an organization has been penetrated, there is often an extensive downtime 
for a couple of reasons. First there is the lockdown, where evidence is 
collected for several reasons (determine what has been compromised, determine 
how they got in, and build a potential legal case). Then there is the detailed 
analysis of how the penetration occurred. Apple has almost certainly hired 
forensic specialists, and they can often set the pace for when Apple comes back 
online. Frequently (almost always) an organization doesn't collect enough logs 
to make penetration analysis easy (see example below). Also, if this admitted 
"security specialist" got in, Apple and the forensics team may have found a 
number of other hackers have penetrated the site and were just much quieter 
about it (the "Advanced Persistent Threats"). Finally they have to go through 
the re-build period.

Rebuilding complex web sites can be very difficult. IMHO, Apple really needed a 
major rebuild of their site anyways. It always felt like a hodgepodge of sites 
built up over the last dozen years. (e.g., some of the web pages still had the 
horrendous Mac OS 10.1 background pattern).


Regarding penetration analysis, you would think the DOD and Intelligence 
Community would be the gold standard for log collection and analysis. It turns 
out they are terrible.

I made this little video over the weekend for another discussion. It shows what 
you can do with Apple's BSM audit trails, and it points out that using the 
government's recommended configuration for BSM, you cannot do any of these 
analyses. So sad. :(

        Should you be leveraging Apple's BSM audit system?
        http://www.netsq.com/Podcasts/Data/2013/AuditIntro/

Todd

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