Hello!
I posted a number questions to this discussion list. They were all
questions about programming in the Cocoa environment. Sometimes my
questions have been ignored / not replied to, however this is mostly
because of my own poor writing skills rather than anything most
siniister. There have been only a couple of occasions where my email
was widtheld from the mailinglist - and in those cases it was because
I had mistakenly sent my message from the wrong email account.
I would say that in the absence of any input from the moderator, its
best to look at the TC, which is Apple's official position on the
matter. "we like to keep things simple" is stated pretty prominently
in the TC, as short and straightforward as it is.
http://lists.apple.com/tc.html
The penalty for posting a message which contravenes the TC (at most)
is that your message will be widtheld / deleted. There is a caveat in
the TC which says that the list moderator has the final say. However
in the absence / failure of the person who is the list moderator it
simply falls down to you (the poster). Mailing lists are (by the
majority part) supposed to be self - moderating and its a feature of
list etiquette to take onboard the general consensus.
If the moderator at a later time (after your post) decides to
widthdraw your message because it contravenes the policy - that is
part of their function. You simply need to be aware that when you post
a message to this list - it may be widthdrawn. Only because cocoa-dev
mailing list has grown to be such a large mailinglist - the Moderators
(Scot included) created special "list guidelines". There is no web
page stating the guidelines, however they simply state - comply with
the Apple iphone NDA.
If you follow the NDA and respect the conditions of the contract on
those intellectual property which you refer to in your message then
your message cannot be held against you in a legal action.
So what are you all still complaining about ? You should all be
celebrating your american so called "free speech" by asking many
hundreds of whimsical questions about iphone development. Surely you
must be allowed exercise your own statutes / legal rights [or those of
the country in which the list is served] ?
And by the way it should be irrelevant whether Apple chooses to regard
you as an iPhone developer or active iPhone developer. As long as you
are an individual that has agreed to the terms of the Apple
contractual agreement, and Apple has chosen to provide those
intellectual property materials **to you**. Then you are free to
discuss those materials (to which you must discuss only the version of
those materials which was marked as "released" by Apple).
This last point is important to understand if you who work for a
company which is in partnership with Apple.
You should also understand that the Apple mailing-list moderator is
not a member of the Apple Legal department, and taking a legal action
against you is unlikely to fall into their remit. Their function is
simply to exercise due judgement and remove those messages from users
which contravene the mailing list TC. Here it is again
http://lists.apple.com/tc.html
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