> On Nov 11, 2019, at 6:15 AM, Turtle Creek Software via Cocoa-dev 
> <cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote:
> 
> Then suggest that Cocoa would work better if Obj-C were a
> superset of C++ rather than plain C.  Objective-C++ all the way down, not
> just in source files.

Obj-C++ is a superset of C++, so I’m not sure what you’re wishing for. There’s 
even pretty good interoperability between C++ and Obj-C objects: for example 
you can embed the former as an ivar, or make vectors of Obj-C classes.

>  Objective-C and Cocoa will be deprecated soon, replaced by
> Swift and SwiftUI. That way there is just one shiny new closed system for
> all Apple hardware. So much simpler.

You can’t really call it “closed” when the entire Swift toolchain and runtime 
libraries are open source, portable, and being actively used on other 
platforms. That’s more open than Obj-C, because Apple never open-sourced 
Foundation.

And it’s much more open than the platform you’re decamping to. MSVC and .NET 
are both fully closed, as far as I’m aware. And I doubt C++-to-C# integration 
is that much smoother.

—Jens
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