> On Aug 26, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Pier Bover via Cocoa-dev > <cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote: > > I'd prefer avoiding C++ if possible.
I had a similar dilemma in 2015 but went with C++, despite earlier bad experiences with it. I've been happy with my choice; C++11 improved the language quite a lot and C++17 even further. I resist the urge to do crazy things with templates, and built some of my own infrastructure like ref-counted objects instead of using STL's. > My first choice would have been using > Go which can compile to .so shared objects but Xcode cannot use those > without some bridge written in C. I spent several years coding in Go. It's a nice language on its own, but its runtime does not play well with others. Go's roots are in a completely nonstandard OS (Plan9) and it shows. Go has its own function-call ABI, its own stack management, its own GC heap. This means it's impractical to add a Go library to a non-Go app (you have to instead let Go own the process and then load & call into non-Go code); and other developer tools like debuggers and crash analyzers are useless with Go code because they don't understand its stack frames. (Disclaimer: I've been away from the Go community for a few years, so some of the above may have been resolved, but I doubt it since the custom runtime is key to the way Go works, i.e. supporting zillions of threads.) > I've read Rust can compile to a dylib for Xcode. I have not used Rust, though I've read a fair bit about it. It looks a lot more amenable for use in an app, since its runtime is lighter and its code generation is done by LLVM. The downside is that (according to many) Rust programming has a significant learning curve because of its memory-ownership rules. And BTW: I don't know if there's been any progress on running Swift on Windows? It's pretty solid on Linux these days. —Jens _______________________________________________ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
