On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Andy Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> The vast majority of this thread, if not all of it, has been about people
> struggling to understand the frameworks as they are.


We're talking subjective impressions here, so there's no wrong or right to
it, but that's not what I'm getting from this thread.

It looks to me like people are struggling to understand the frameworks in
terms of platforms with which they're already familiar. I believe that if
they were truly trying to understand the frameworks *as they are*, rather
than as minor variations of themes also found in Java, C++, .NET, etc.,
they'd be having far less trouble with it.

This, I believe, is where the docs fail. There is plenty of introductory
material, but no real emphasis is put on the point that programmers from
other platforms really, really do need that material - so those folks tend
to skip it, believing that Cocoa is as similar to Java, C++, or .NET as
those are to one another. In fact, it's very different, and the docs are
weak on emphasizing that fact.

sherm--

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