I keep thinking that all the energy spent on the list discussing the iPhone and how we're not supposed to be discussing the iPhone could be better spent drafting some sort of joint letter to Apple stockholders explaining that iPhone developers' inability discuss and jointly figure out the SDK is impeding Apple's ability to affectively compete with products such as Android that encourage developer interchange (and thereby putting Apple's potential profits and share values at risk).

-- Ilan

On May 21, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Michael Ash wrote:

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 7:24 PM, I. Savant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We are not allowed to "talk in public" about the iphone apis....yet..Is
called "DNA"

Well, no, it's called "NDA", which stands for "non-disclosure agreement". It's that pesky legal contract you agreed to in order to gain access to the
iPhone SDK that says "DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE SDK UNTIL IT IS PUBLICLY
RELEASED" (I'm paraphrasing).

I really don't understand why you feel the list needs a warning not to break a legally-binding contract. By that logic, every person should wear a label above their heads reminding you what contracts you're bound to so you don't break them when interacting with that person. Clearly ridiculous.

I "agreed" to similar contracts every time I've installed Mac OS X and
Xcode and nobody ever got annoyed when I talked about *those* in a
public forum.

The confusing thing about the iPhone SDK isn't the contract, it's the
inconsistency. It's no more difficult to get your hands on the iPhone
SDK than it is to get your hands on a public release of Xcode. (In
both cases you must have an account, fill out a bunch of forms, click
through an NDA, etc.) Yet one can be discussed freely and the other
cannot. Frankly I'm left puzzled as to the rules here, or why Apple is
so adamant about protecting the "secrets" in something that literally
anyone on the planet with an internet connection can download directly
from their own servers, and I doubt I'm alone on that count.

Mike
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