On May 21, 2008, at 4:31 AM, Torsten Curdt wrote:
Well, they are free to open source XCode and have other people help. Look at Eclipse.
You can suggest it to them, but I wouldn't hold your breath. :) Probably shouldn't open up that argument in this thread.
Paying for documentation is a weird thought though. Apple should be happy to attract developers to have the platform flourish. That's an investment you have to make if you want to be the controlling entity of an operating system.
Yeah, I know... one of the drawbacks of writing late at night - this point was not well stated. I didn't mean to imply Apple should start charging for documentation, just that we (including me) sometimes feel entitled, and I think what we've paid should be kept in mind when we start to feel entitled.
I think even for the documentation user generated content could be a good way to "spice it up". This worked very well for PHP for example. It would be valuable feedback for the tech writers. Just submitting bugs to the documentation is not the same. We are entering the age of user generated content. Let's not miss the boat here. Cocoadev is great - but too separate.
This sounds interesting, but I'm not clear on what your comment about CocoaDev means, to be honest. The problem here, of course, is that somebody has to take the initiative to get it started and nurse it through the difficult start-up times until you get critical mass.
I think face-to-face is an important part to overcome the obstacles. And this will become easier the more popular it gets.
Amen. I can't tell you how much I sometimes hate having moved away from the SF Bay Area where there are many Cocoa Programmers, and there are NSCoder nights, and CocoaHeads, and other opportunities to meet other Cocoa programmers, to a place where Cocoa is only something you drink after snowmobiling. Then I remember how much bigger my house is here and how much less I paid for it and I feel a little better :) _______________________________________________
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