I can understand that, Olaf.  If you can hold out for another week or so we 
should have everything on the dev side (I think) and much of the client-side 
working well enough that common use will be practical.  The biggest reason why 
CoApp doesn't have that right now is because there have been almost as many 
unexpected barriers as there have been days of work on the project.  Add to 
that that one of my first acts upon joining the project was to punch holes into 
the then existing project structure and we end up a little behind original 
schedule, but with a much more robust system upon completion.

I promise it's coming, and if you want to help by pushing code updates that 
would be appreciated.  Otherwise, I'm afraid that everyone will just need to be 
patient a little bit longer.  Seriously, it should be usable soon.

-Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Olaf van der Spek [mailto:olafvds...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 10:43 AM
To: Tim Rogers
Cc: coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net
Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers] First useful pkgs? (libz, libpng)

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Tim Rogers <tiro...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> By the same token, releasing early makes the assumption that 
> significant portions of the software in question are believed to 
> operate correctly unless stated otherwise.  We could absolutely 
> release CoApp “early” in its present state, but I would only wish to 
> do so with a disclaimer that we do not believe the software to be functioning 
> properly at this time.
>
>
>
> I, at least, am not willing to promise that it won’t light your 
> computer on fire if you try using it right now.  I don’t think it 
> will, but I really can’t make that promise.  Nor can I promise that it 
> will do anything that it is supposed to until we have had a chance to 
> seriously look it over first.
>
>
>
> With all of this in mind, if you would like to build it yourself and 
> try using the tools to construct packages and install them, I’d be 
> happy to get input from test systems outside my control.  Just don’t 
> blame us if the system becomes unstable.

I understand you can't release something like a RC or even a beta.
However, 1.5 years into the project, I had expected some things to be 
available. Like a tool to build a (native) Hello world lib to produce .lib and 
.dll files (not even a pkg). To some, that's already very useful functionality 
and it'd allow other developers to start playing with, and possibly 
contributing to, the coapp project.

Olaf

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