By the same token, releasing early makes the assumption that significant 
portions of the software in question are believed to operate correctly unless 
stated otherwise.  We could absolutely release CoApp "early" in its present 
state, but I would only wish to do so with a disclaimer that we do not believe 
the software to be functioning properly at this time.

I, at least, am not willing to promise that it won't light your computer on 
fire if you try using it right now.  I don't think it will, but I really can't 
make that promise.  Nor can I promise that it will do anything that it is 
supposed to until we have had a chance to seriously look it over first.

With all of this in mind, if you would like to build it yourself and try using 
the tools to construct packages and install them, I'd be happy to get input 
from test systems outside my control.  Just don't blame us if the system 
becomes unstable.

-Tim

From: coapp-developers-bounces+tiroger=microsoft....@lists.launchpad.net 
[mailto:coapp-developers-bounces+tiroger=microsoft....@lists.launchpad.net] On 
Behalf Of Charles Strahan
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 8:09 PM
To: coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net
Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers] First useful pkgs? (libz, libpng)

I think that Garret is suggesting that CoApp isn't yet ready to be released for 
the common user, in the same manner that one wouldn't deploy a 50% working (or 
50% broken) web site.

My understanding is that "Release Early, Release Often" applies to projects 
that are 100% working - although perhaps not 100% feature complete. I could be 
wrong, but it would seem that CoApp isn't 100% solid yet.

I'm guessing that "Release Early, Release Often" will be the next logical step 
after the first release.

-Charles

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Olaf van der Spek 
<olafvds...@gmail.com<mailto:olafvds...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Garrett Serack 
<garre...@microsoft.com<mailto:garre...@microsoft.com>> wrote:
> *sigh*
>
> Software Developers  use "Release Early, Release Often". It's not just an 
> open source idea.
>
> And yes, that would be ideal.
>
> However, We're still at a stage where releasing something would be completely 
> pointless.
>
> Every blocking bug that I have yet to resolve means that no matter what I've 
> got, you can't use it.
>
> Release Early, Release Often works ok for Applications with a gradually 
> increasing feature-set
Isn't coapp such software? I'm sure it's possible to define such a feature-set.

Olaf

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